House Debating Tax Cut Bill [On CSPAN now - LIVE thread]

C-SPAN ^ | 12/16/10

[Sequoyah101]

I thought they were taking a shorter route to our bowels with stuff now.

[Beatthedrum]

Absolutely.. Listen to the difference here. The GOP are taking about what business leaders are saying about leaving the taxes where they are, so businesses can plan.. The democraps are all screaming about the rich not getting to keep their own money..

Outside of freeloaders, socialists, unions members,who the hell votes for these morons??? I can only assume there are millions of idiots who vote democrat because their parents were always democrats. You could run a rapist and if there was a D beside the name, they vote for him. Ooops that already happened with Clinton..

[Sequoyah101]

I thought they were taking a shorter route to our bowels with stuff now.

BOHICA!!!

[Cecilia Trent]

Hoyer “Quack Quack” If it talks like a lame duck and walks like a lame duck it’s a lame duck

[Beatthedrum]

The nerve of this clown after all the trillions they have rammed through in 2 years, talking about worrying about the debt for his children.

These democraps are so vile and disgusting.

What an liar, supply side worked for Reagan and Bush 2 to pull out of the mess Carter left and then Clinton left.

In 1993 a little more ???, biggest tax increase in history. Dot com phoney bubble and then it fell apart.

[Big E]

“the President made this deal we don’t like”. Hahahaha, that’s because the President doesn’t have a guaranteed job for life, like you do, Hoyer. If he doesn’t get unemployment down, in November, 2012, the unemployment line is going to get longer by one President.

[Cecilia Trent]

Pelosi: “President Obama was a job creator from day one.” Tell that to the thousands unemployed.

[Beatthedrum]

What the hell is this amendmemnt that Levin is adding ? No open to debate ?

[Red Steel]

45% estate tax rate amendment.

[advance_copy]

From what I understand, the Levin amendment changes the original house bill HR 4853 to the text that was adopted by the Senate.

The reason that they had to do it this way is because tax and spending bills have to orginate in the House and not the Senate, per the Consitution. But the Democrats in the House did not want to vote on this first, they wanted the Senate to go first. So the Senate took some bill from the House and amended it completely to the Obama tax compromise. Now the House is considering the amendment to the orginal bill.

[Beatthedrum]

I apologize for my ignorance, but when unemployment benefits run out, don’t people get welfare ?

Once when I was nearly broke, in my early 20s, I think I had about $ 100 in the bank, I took a job laying sod for two weeks for a developer. Tough work, but I needed the money and it kept me going. I guess I’ve been lucky, never collected unemployment or welfare.

But I’m curious about the guy who called about his unemployment running out before Christmas, can’t he get welfare ?

[advance_copy]

Confirmed, I got this from thomas.loc.gov:

Rules Committee Resolution H. Res. 1766 Reported to House. Makes in order a motion offered by the chair of the Committee on Ways and Means that the House concur in the Senate amendment to the House amendment to the Senate amendment to H.R. 4853 with the amendment printed in the report from the Committee on Rules. The resolution waives all points of order against consideration of the motion except those arising under clause 10 of rule XXI.

So they are now voting on the motion orderd by H. Res. 1766 from the Rules Committee. This will only concur on the Senate amendment. The Pomeroy amendment vote will come after this.

[Red Steel]

Just heard on the radio that Pelosi is going to allow a vote on amendment to increas death tax. That will pass but the amended bill won't get passed. Then Pelosi is going to move the un-amended bill that matches what the Senate passed. If that passes, it goes to the President.

The Repubs should ensure, if they can, by letting the 45% tax rate bill passes to jam this lame duck session will stall the Dems DADT, DREAM and START.

[Beatthedrum]

Yes, but if this stupid Pomeroy amendment passes, the bill has been altered and will have to go back to the senate and get approved ?

[CharlesWayneCT]

So, if the Levin amendment sets it to the Senate version, why are all the republicans voting against it?

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The Repubs should ensure, if they can, by letting the 45% tax rate bill passes to jam this lame duck session will stall the Dems DADT, DREAM and START.

Oh, man, that would be mean LOL. I like the idea. Then, they could kill this in the Senate and vote a clean bill without any extra death tax on it once the cavalry gets their in January.

[CharlesWayneCT]

OK, I just checked, and it looks like the “Levin” amendment is actually what used to be the Pomeroy amendment.

[advance_copy]

Yes, but if this stupid Pomeroy amendment passes, the bill has been altered and will have to go back to the senate and get approved ?

Yep... See Red Steel's post #53. That would be sweet.

[advance_copy]

OK, I just checked, and it looks like the “Levin” amendment is actually what used to be the Pomeroy amendment.

Wow, C-SPAN just said you are correct. This is the 45% death tax increase.

[kara2008]

Rep. John Yarmuth (D-KY) complains that maintaining current tax rates is “GIVING” “bonuses” to the “wealthy” that “they don’t need.” And..

"They (the "RICH") have done extremely well, to GIVE them MORE MONEY is not -- when we're borrowing it -- is not the kind of priority we need to set."

Video posted here.

Tar and feathers would be too kind. This leftist fool has probably never created, let alone held, a private sector job his entire life. He and the rest of the idiotic looters in DC view OUR money as THEIRS. They are nothing more than self-serving, power hungry, tyrannical THIEVES!.