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Gays: Too mainstream for liberals?
NY Post ^ | December 28, 2010 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 12/29/2010 3:15:36 AM PST by Scanian

So now openly gay soldiers get to fight and die in neocon-imperialist wars, too?

David Brooks saw such ironic progressive victories coming. In his book "Bobos in Paradise," he wrote that everything "transgressive" gets "digested by the mainstream bourgeois order, and all the cultural weapons that once were used to undermine middle-class morality . . . are drained of their subversive content."

Two decades ago, the gay left wanted to smash the bourgeois prisons of monogamy, capitalistic enterprise and patriotic values and bask in the warm sun of bohemian "free love" and avant-garde values. In this, they were simply picking up the torch from the straight left of the 1960s and 1970s, which had sought to throw off the sexual hang-ups of their parents' generation along with their gray-flannel suits.

As a sexual-lifestyle experiment, they failed pretty miserably, the greatest proof being that the affluent and educated children (and grandchildren) of the baby boomers have re-embraced the bourgeois notion of marriage as an essential part of a successful life. Sadly, it's the lower-middle class that increasingly sees marriage as an out-of-reach luxury. The irony is that such bourgeois values -- monogamy, hard work, etc. -- are the best guarantors of success and happiness.

Of course, the lunacy of the bohemian free-love shtick should have been obvious from the get-go. For instance, when Michael Lerner, a member of the anti-Vietnam War "Seattle Seven," did marry, in 1971, the couple exchanged rings made from the fuselage of a US aircraft downed over Vietnam and cut into a cake inscribed in icing with a Weatherman catchphrase, "Smash Monogamy."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bohemianism; bourgeois; freelove; leftists; military; monogamy

1 posted on 12/29/2010 3:15:39 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

“Many of my conservative friends — who oppose both civil unions and gay marriage and object to rampant promiscuity — often act as if there’s some grand alternative lifestyle for gays.”

There is, Jonah...it’s called “keeping it in your pants.”


2 posted on 12/29/2010 3:18:06 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

The mainstreaming of perversion is all part of the communist plan to destroy America. And it is right on schedule.


3 posted on 12/29/2010 3:18:27 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: Scanian

Gay = gag and yell


4 posted on 12/29/2010 3:26:35 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Scanian

We are the New Roman Empire, homos and all.


5 posted on 12/29/2010 3:31:56 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Scanian
So now openly gay soldiers get to fight and die in neocon-imperialist wars, too?

This was never about homosexual men. This issue has always been about lesbians being allowed in the military.

6 posted on 12/29/2010 3:33:27 AM PST by trad_anglican
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To: trad_anglican

Not that either. This is about gay marriage. You can’t deny universal recognition of marriage to people who are being allowed spousal rights in the military.


7 posted on 12/29/2010 5:59:56 AM PST by LoveUSA (You don't notice the night light until it gets dark.)
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To: Scanian

How many would want to treat a wounded gay soldier and get their blood on them.


8 posted on 12/29/2010 6:26:27 AM PST by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: trad_anglican

explain please.


9 posted on 12/29/2010 6:51:43 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
Repeal of DADT could, and likely will, be leveraged to attempt a repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act, silence chaplains that speak out against homosexuality and push for more "hate speech" and "hate crime" laws.

I can see the MSM soundbites...so and so died fighting for his country, but the government wouldn't let him marry his "life partner", etc, etc.

10 posted on 12/29/2010 7:28:12 AM PST by Red Dog #1
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To: Scanian

The dialectical sword has two edges.


11 posted on 12/29/2010 7:40:10 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Scanian
The really interesting part is:
Personally, I've always felt that gay marriage was an inevitability, for good or ill (most likely both). I don't think that the arguments against gay marriage are all grounded in bigotry, and I find some arguments persuasive. But I also find it cruel and absurd to tell gays that living the free-love lifestyle is abominable while at the same time telling them that their committed relationships are illegitimate, too.

12 posted on 01/03/2011 5:26:15 AM PST by TiAhr-02L
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