Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Senator John McCain's born identity (McNasty is "filled with endless rage")
Al Jazeera ^ | 2010-12-30 | Cliff Schecter

Posted on 12/30/2010 9:39:59 AM PST by rabscuttle385

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-86 next last
To: Vaquero
"McCain is OUR problem..... WHY are we posting anything from Al Jeezera..."

Much less an Al Jazeera article by an author who cites "David Corn" as a reliable authority on anything but beastiality. McCain is no arch conservative, but this is pure pus.

;-\

21 posted on 12/30/2010 10:09:40 AM PST by Gargantua (Palin ~ Bachmann 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: unspun

I’ll take John McCain over anything that the left has to offer any day. Say what you will, but he served his country and lived through hell. I can name at least 20 Senators currently serving that are much, much worse and never bothered to serve (or lied about where they served). Say what you will, but he did what his country asked him to do and didn’t wimp out. It has been time for him to go, but that’s up to AZ and apparently they like him.


22 posted on 12/30/2010 10:15:01 AM PST by MotherRedDog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385

Many on FR seem to increasingly believe only sources on “our” side should be posted.

This makes criticism much easier. You don’t have to point out a factual or logical flaw in the article itself, only that it is from the “wrong” side.

This is beginning to get ridiculous. If we only listen to each other, we can never learn much, and most especially we won’t become familiar with the arguments of the other side and therefore be able to more effectively refute them.

It is also an argument more widely associated with leftists. No need to refute the actual argument of a “right-winger.” Just pronounce him to be such and therefore both evil and wrong, and move on. Showed him!

I’ve even had posters claim a reference from wikipedia or Snopes is by definition unacceptable, since some material from those sites is indeed infected with liberalism. They generally don’t bother to post a more authoritative source as a refutation, just assume wiki is wrong and therefore they can continue to believe as they choose without any need to prove their point.

I will cheerfully agreed wikipedia should never be accepted as a final authority, especially on anything involving politics, but it does contain a great deal of good material and is often an excellent starting point for research.


23 posted on 12/30/2010 10:20:49 AM PST by Sherman Logan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Frantzie

he spent $21million to beat a flawed primary candidate who had about 10% of his war chest


24 posted on 12/30/2010 10:21:55 AM PST by henry_reardon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: muleskinner
He's Irish. They fight.

McCain is a Scottish name, not Irish. And the so-called Scots-Irish were Scottish people who moved to Ireland and then to the U.S. But they fight, too. More, probably.

25 posted on 12/30/2010 10:36:19 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Vaquero
McCain is OUR problem..... WHY are we posting anything from Al Jeezera?

About the author:

Cliff Schecter is the President of Libertas, LLC, a progressive public relations firm, the author of the 2008 bestseller The Real McCain, and a regular contributor to The Huffington Post.

It looks like the writer is just a progressive writer who's work might be picked up by various publications - not a staff writer for Al Jazeera. I expect this article could be found elsewhere.

26 posted on 12/30/2010 10:51:55 AM PST by Will88
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385

Sounds like ‘08 was really a lose-lose proposition....


27 posted on 12/30/2010 11:03:26 AM PST by indthkr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385
Sarah Palin disagrees with this assessment:
A man of principle, he's not afraid to take tough positions, and he doesn't shy away from a fight. He's not worried about what's popular or partisan or personally advantageous. He's guided only by a desire to do what's right for the people he serves and the country he loves.

28 posted on 12/30/2010 11:18:56 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Frantzie
Your opinion is at odds with those who know McCain personally, like Sarah Palin:
"I admired his tireless crusade against the old pork-barrel-spending, earmarking, backroom-dealing ways of D.C. that make a whole lot of us pretty ill," she said. "Today, those issues are at the heart of a conservative movement that's sweeping this country.

"It's a beautiful grass-roots movement that's putting government back on the side of the people. . . . It's the tea-party movement, and I want to clear the air right now. Everybody supporting John McCain here today, we are all part of that movement."

“As we traveled across the country, I got to know John McCain personally,” Palin wrote. “He's a man of faith, a man of honor and — most of all — a man of the people. He's deeply devoted to his state; the patriotic, hard-working Arizonans who call it home; and the founding principles they hold dear.”

“one of the finest public servants in this country.”


29 posted on 12/30/2010 11:21:13 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

“Many on FR seem to increasingly believe only sources on “our” side should be posted.”

Worse, if you point out errors of fact, logic, or civility from one of “our” sources, you’re suddenly the “enemy yourself, to be zotted.


30 posted on 12/30/2010 11:24:09 AM PST by Elwood P. Doud (America, you voted for a negro socialist with an Islamic name - so why act surprised?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385; Admin Moderator

Do we have a policy to follow when posting obvious propaganda from Al Jazeera?

Seems when we use our enemy’s ally to smear our own “enemy”, something is awry.

Please advise.
Thank you.


31 posted on 12/30/2010 11:36:25 AM PST by 1Swashbuckler
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 1Swashbuckler
Hell....we post stuff from MSNBC, CNN, and ABC....et al.

What's the difference....???

Let's let FReeper's decide what's propaganda...or not, eh?

32 posted on 12/30/2010 11:50:58 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Albion Wilde

Of course, the Scots themselves were originally an Irish tribe that invaded and settled in what later became Scotland.


33 posted on 12/30/2010 12:10:47 PM PST by Sherman Logan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385
Namely, that the Led Zeppelin-groupie relationship he then enjoyed with many in the media was based on a faulty premise.

I don't care who wrote it or to what end, but that's friggin hilarious and dead-on target.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

34 posted on 12/30/2010 12:21:51 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Don Corleone
Perhaps he never really left that POW world. He cannot rage at those that kept him prisoner, so he rages against everyone else...after all he was the son of an Admiral and how dare they treat him this way....

I feel sorry for his wife, but she chose him..

35 posted on 12/30/2010 12:22:17 PM PST by goat granny (Great dad's are a blessing to son's but more so to daughters...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Will88
It looks like the writer is just a progressive writer who's work might be picked up by various publications - not a staff writer for Al Jazeera. I expect this article could be found elsewhere

right...I figured that out.

so we have a progressive writer who strikes a chord with our enemies at AL Jazeera. and why would we want to have anything to do with either of these defilers of America

36 posted on 12/30/2010 12:40:53 PM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan
Many on FR seem to increasingly believe only sources on “our” side should be posted. This makes criticism much easier. You don’t have to point out a factual or logical flaw in the article itself, only that it is from the “wrong” side. This is beginning to get ridiculous. If we only listen to each other, we can never learn much, and most especially we won’t become familiar with the arguments of the other side and therefore be able to more effectively refute them...

Bump! Completely agree Sherman!

37 posted on 12/30/2010 12:43:40 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385
Of course, as Corn also wrote, “Not only had McCain flip-flopped, he had become an angry crusader, seemingly full of rage at a policy initiative he once quasi-endorsed…It seemed more personal than policy -- as in he really doesn't fancy seeing a victory for President Obama, the fellow who prevented McCain from becoming BMOC.”

Pure horsecrap, given that McCain has also expressed willingness to work with Obama. One can find plenty of reasons to rip into McCain without making up speculative claims that are a line drawn from a single starting point - and such a line can be drawn in any direction.

But don't let the facts get in the way of opinions of David Corn ... or Paultards who hate McCain mostly for being pro-Iraq-War.

38 posted on 12/30/2010 12:57:13 PM PST by dirtboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385
Exactly what is invalid about the article?

Try reading it without your eyes glazed over in Paultard glee. You might spot a few glaring variances from the truth if you did.

But, then again, you show a history of not being discriminating about where you post from - as long as you like the conclusions drawn, you don't care how they got there.

39 posted on 12/30/2010 1:04:40 PM PST by dirtboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385
Let me see if I'm following this correctly. So far FReepers have pinged the AdminMod twice, asked for your thread to be pulled, your source banned and you zotted. It has been declared (essentially) that only ideologically correct sources should be posted on Free Republic, which I suppose limits it to vanities posted by selected individuals, since all news sources are flawed.

I think I'm missing something. When did someone logically show where the article was factually incorrect? Or even logically refute the opinion of the author?

40 posted on 12/30/2010 1:06:04 PM PST by Pan_Yan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-86 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson