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Give Me Liberty or Give Me Health
American Thinker ^ | 01/06/2011 | Andrew Foy,MD

Posted on 01/06/2011 6:30:56 AM PST by Miss_Meyet

In the December 15th issue of America's most prestigious medical pubication, The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), Eric Friedman and Eli Adashi write, "In passing The Affordable Care Act, the United States took a giant, if partial, step toward joining nations wherein the right to health constitutes an inalienable moral and legal right." Notice how the authors replace the term health care with just the term health.

As a medical doctor, I strongly disagree that health is or should be a human right. First and foremost, as a supporter of individual rights and constitutionally limited government, "the right to health" is far too nebulous and necessarily vests the government with unlimited power.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcare; healthscare; obamacare
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This was a very good article expressing a refreshing viewpoint not widely held (or at least, not widely expressed) in the medical community.

I hope this is not a duplicate--I searched for title and keywords.

I have to leave now for a meeting, but I will return and reply.

1 posted on 01/06/2011 6:31:03 AM PST by Miss_Meyet
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To: Miss_Meyet
Back then it was “Give me liberty or give me death”
Now it's “Where’s mine”
2 posted on 01/06/2011 6:40:12 AM PST by gdzla
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To: Miss_Meyet

Spot on.


3 posted on 01/06/2011 6:40:30 AM PST by TheWriterTX (Buy Ammo Often)
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To: Miss_Meyet

By any definition, an “inalienable right” must cost nothing to anyone.
It is yours by the fact that you are the crown of creation.

Your Liberty does not entail me working for months to pay the taxes for it.


4 posted on 01/06/2011 6:48:59 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Miss_Meyet

Very good article by Andrew Foy. Thanks for posting and belated WELCOME ABOARD!

Life, liberty and the pursuit and destruction of totalitarians.


5 posted on 01/06/2011 6:54:10 AM PST by PGalt
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To: bill1952
By any definition, an “inalienable right” must cost nothing to anyone.It is yours by the fact that you are the crown of creation.

Exactly right! bill1952! A "right" to something should not exist when it infringes on the rights of another. However, by making "health care" and, as the author points out, even more frightening "health" a right, this imposes burdensome costs on society as a whole.

6 posted on 01/06/2011 6:57:48 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant. ~attr to Charles de Gaulle)
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To: Miss_Meyet
Is there a right to post?

I post, therefore I am? (Muffy's new tagline)

:-)

You did it!

7 posted on 01/06/2011 7:02:24 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: gdzla
Back then it was “Give me liberty or give me death” Now it's “Where’s mine”

Well said!

I laughed yesterday listening to Pelosi's ramblings before actually turning over the gavel to Boehner, well...I think it was Pelosi who was taking about the 50th anniversary of JFK's presidency. Pretend it was she...it's not important... anyway, she said that JFK inspired a generation of "public servants" by his remark, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

Where am I going with this?

Oh, yes...now it certainly seems that it's "What can my country do for me?" (At the expense of my fellow countrymen)

8 posted on 01/06/2011 7:02:28 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant. ~attr to Charles de Gaulle)
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To: TheWriterTX
Spot on.

Well, I certainly thought so, and thought the author deserved credit for expressing a refreshing viewpoint not commonly heard in his profession.

9 posted on 01/06/2011 7:04:56 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant. ~attr to Charles de Gaulle)
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To: Miss_Meyet; Nachum
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10 posted on 01/06/2011 7:09:34 AM PST by GailA (DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA! 2012 rally cry.)
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To: Lakeshark
Is there a right to post?

I'm laughing.

I suppose the answer turns on precisely what you are posting. There are limits on free speech, as you doubtless know.

Thank you for the tagline suggestion, Lakeshare.

11 posted on 01/06/2011 7:09:42 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (I'm in trouble--I hate my boss. The trouble is, I'm self-employed.)
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To: PGalt

I thought it was an exceptional piece.


12 posted on 01/06/2011 7:11:19 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (I'm in trouble--I hate my boss. The trouble is, I'm self-employed.)
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Oh, chuckle—the JAMA writer is named “Friedman” I do hope he is not related to Uncle Milton—he (Milton Friedman) would be spinning in his grave to read that “health” itself is now a right.


13 posted on 01/06/2011 7:14:51 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (I'm in trouble--I hate my boss. The trouble is, I'm self-employed.)
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More from the article:

Very simply, ‘the right to health' means the government should do everything required to make sure each individual attains the highest level of health. Furthermore, since an individual's health is affected by literally every other aspect of his life, government should do everything in each of these areas to make sure they are affecting the individual's health in the most positive way. In Friedman and Adashi's point of view, the right to health represents a limitless claim on the government's bounty. This brings to mind the age old adage, "a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have."

I really do miss President Reagan.

14 posted on 01/06/2011 7:18:53 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (I'm in trouble--I hate my boss. The trouble is, I'm self-employed.)
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Very simply, ‘the right to health' means the government should do everything required to make sure each individual attains the highest level of health.

And what if some people dont want to take care of their health? Far as I'm concerned, that's their business.

It's a terrific article, but I have to disagree with the description of JAMA as the most presigious medical journal. It isnt.

15 posted on 01/06/2011 7:51:42 AM PST by freespirited (Truth is the new hate speech. -- Pamela Geller)
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And what if some people don't want to take care of their health? Far as I'm concerned, that's their business.

It's a terrific article, but I have to disagree with the description of JAMA as the most presigious medical journal. It isnt.

;)

I hate to say it, but I think a large part of the loss of prestige stems from having had a female editor at the helm. IMHO, "Jama Mama" took the Journal into more "socially just" areas versus true science. She also made a point of dumping advertisers with whom she had "issues".

16 posted on 01/06/2011 8:00:07 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (I'm in trouble--I hate my boss. The trouble is, I'm self-employed.)
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Sorry, I have to leave again.


17 posted on 01/06/2011 8:02:42 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (I'm in trouble--I hate my boss. The trouble is, I'm self-employed.)
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To: Miss_Meyet
That would be Mr Lakeshark.........
18 posted on 01/06/2011 10:32:30 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
That would be Mr Lakeshark.........

Would it now?
Noted.

But, I think you have me confused with someone else.

19 posted on 01/06/2011 12:06:45 PM PST by Miss_Meyet (I'm in trouble--I hate my boss. The trouble is, I'm self-employed.)
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Ok, I'm back.

I do have just one teeny, tiny, teensy quibble with this otherwise rather good article.

Dr Foy seems to be following the modern fashion of "improving" on Locke. Foy speaks of "negative" rights, rather than the good old, tried and true, "natural" rights when speaking of the rights in the Declaration of Independence. I always thought of those as moral rights. Of course, I could be wrong.

I mean, deep down, it's okay. Really. IMHO, any effort made these days at distinguishing a "right" from a "want" or even a "wish" is to be applauded. Particularly in the arena of health services.

Ok, that concludes my little tirade.

20 posted on 01/06/2011 12:25:29 PM PST by Miss_Meyet (I post, therefore I am---avoiding some unpleasant chore.)
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