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Would a Time Machine Help Investors?
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/01/would-a-time-machine-help-investors/ ^ | January 6th, 2011 | Jack McHugh

Posted on 01/06/2011 8:55:12 PM PST by Rabin

Well, what if I gave you the ability to peer into the future, to know — with certainty — how some of these unknowable variables would change over the next 5 years?

What if I guaranteed you that the following predictions about Newmont — Courtesy of my time machine, I can tell you exactly what will happen:

1. The price of gold rises almost 150% 2. Newmont’s earnings more than quadruple 3. Newmont’s dvidend payout rises 50% 4. Newmont’s share count rises less than 10%

NEM goes down. The time period to which I refer is January 2006 to January 2011, and my time machine is called history

(Excerpt) Read more at ritholtz.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: gold; sourcetitlenoturl; usstocks
Rab has bin fiddilin in markets. Gold @ 2 zillion a micron seems unsettling,
1 posted on 01/06/2011 8:55:17 PM PST by Rabin
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To: Rabin

I think the stock market is headed for the mother of all triple tops about mid-year.


2 posted on 01/06/2011 8:58:26 PM PST by Free Vulcan (The cult of Islam must be eradicated by any means necessary.)
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To: Rabin
This is how I look at preditions.

On Sept 10, 2001 nobody predicted that we would be in a war in Afghanistan.


3 posted on 01/06/2011 9:01:35 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Rabin
Would a Time Machine Help Investors?

Well, based on the title I would guess....Hell Yeah!

4 posted on 01/06/2011 9:04:13 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Free Vulcan

Triple tops? What do you mean?


5 posted on 01/06/2011 9:05:37 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Rabin

Wow. Reading the excerpt alone is enough to inflict brain damage. Can’t imagine how awful the rest of the article must be.

Can’t imagine what you were thinking by posting this.


6 posted on 01/06/2011 9:10:04 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Rabin

Do they still have chimpanzees throwing darts at the Wall Street Journal? And are the chimps still as accurate as the ‘experts?’


7 posted on 01/06/2011 9:10:51 PM PST by mrreaganaut (Hanlon's razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.)
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To: mylife

Look at the tops in '00, '07, and where we're at right now.

8 posted on 01/06/2011 9:13:18 PM PST by Free Vulcan (The cult of Islam must be eradicated by any means necessary.)
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To: Free Vulcan

So, you’re saying Buy! BUY! ... followed in the summer by BYE BYE!!


9 posted on 01/06/2011 9:16:56 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Rabin
A real time-machine would be disastrous for investors. Such a machine would create an inevitable tear in the fabric of the time-space continuum which could cause an implosion of reality itself. Imagine what that would do to the Dow Jones Industrial Index.

You doubt me? Imagine if the CEO of Coke could go back in time and kill the creator of Pepsi. The implications are incalculable. What if you could peer into the future and find that you have become a multi-billionaire. If I had that knowledge, I would never get up before noon.

10 posted on 01/06/2011 9:17:11 PM PST by fhayek
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To: coloradan

If I were in I’d keep a close eye on things that’s for sure.


11 posted on 01/06/2011 9:21:53 PM PST by Free Vulcan (The cult of Islam must be eradicated by any means necessary.)
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To: Free Vulcan

This market is being driven by free money from the Fed. They are just waiting for the suckers to come back.


12 posted on 01/06/2011 9:45:54 PM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: fhayek
I know this may be a little off tangent, but time-machines cannot exist unless a) they only permit viewing (as in, like a TV set you can see what happened in the past/future but cannot influence it), or b) use of the machine leads to the splitting off of a parallel time-line (which goes off into a whole other discussion). Apart from those two instances, time travel is not possible.

A simple example why not: imagine that you have an older brother, and as he is walking down the street he gets gunned down by some stray bullet from some MS-13 banger. That really gets you down, and with your astounding intellect you crack the secret for temporal travel, and using your invention go back in time and make your brother sit down for a quick snack of toasted nuts. This means he ends up walking on that same street 30 minutes later, and thus missing the stray bullet by half an hour. Alright, so he is not gunned down. But that means that the incentive for your past self to invent the time machine is no longer there, since your brother is still alive, and thus you do not create the machine. By not creating the machine, that means you did not go back in time to save him, and thus he left in time to catch the bullet. Which means he died. Which means you got so distraught that you created a time machine and went back and saved him. Which means he did not die, and thus you had no incentive to save him. Which means he died. Which means you had to save him. Which means you did not save him. Which means he died. Which means he did not die. Which means he died and did not die and died and did not die and .....time machines cannot exist unless a) all you can do is view and not interact (and anyways, the energy requirements for sending someone back would be huge, much greater than simply viewing), or b) it creates parallel timelines (in this case one where your brother was shot down, and another where he was not ....although you could argue that happens all the time. Imagine if you had married Miss A rather than Miss B. That means a whole different set of family, different relatives, different life situation, etc etc etc. Sometimes it can be a lil' on the scary side. Every decision one makes creates a life for them that is TOTALLY different from what else might have been. Just two days ago a friend of mine was telling me how in November 2010 she gave up her seat in front of a minivan to some lady with crutches - since the lady with crutches required more space, and went to sit behind. That minivan crashed into a parked lorry, and then was hit from behind by another vehicle in what seemed like something out of a crazy movie. Everyone died apart from my friend and three other people, and only my friend came out with literally not a single scratch. Had she not given up her seat she'd be dead. Every single act changes ones life).

Thus, time travel ....unless you are only viewing, or creating parallel timelines, cannot exist. For instance, one cannot go back and kill Bill Gates. The fact that MicroSoft exists, and Bill Gates exists, means that you will NOT be successful. At least in this time line.

The best way I saw that handled was actually in some comic ...some character called Midnighter (some super-soldier type amped to the next level) was sent back in time by some deranged rich guy who wanted revenge on Adolf Hitler for killing his family in the Nazi camps ...thus the character's mission was to kill Hitler). Well, when the guy got back in time, he had an opportunity to kill Hitler near the end (just before he committed suicide), when ol' Adolf walked into some dark room. Just as Midnighter was about to follow in and snuff the b@$tard, he got a strong feeling that if he walked in after him he would not be coming out alive. He didn't go in.

Same thing ...the fact that Bill is alive now, means that going back to snuff him out in the cradle did not work for some reason. It may not be prudent to find out what that reason is.

13 posted on 01/06/2011 9:49:36 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz

My brain just imploded. If I had a time machine, I would go back and NOT read your post. But I would know that the reason I went back was to NOT read your posts, which would make my brain implode. Knowledge is the main enemy of any given time continuum.


14 posted on 01/06/2011 10:00:40 PM PST by fhayek
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To: fhayek

:)


15 posted on 01/06/2011 10:02:23 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: fhayek

A time machine would be wonderful, if you were the only one who had one. If I knew then what is known now, I would have already retired.

If everyone has access to the same infallible information about the future, it would be worthless for investors.


16 posted on 01/07/2011 2:50:28 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

But one cannot travel FORWARD in time because it has not happened. We cannot assume that all time from zero to infinity has occured. What we do in the present determines the future, in its own time.

Traveling forward in time would be going forward into nothing.


17 posted on 01/07/2011 3:04:51 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Frantzie
Yes! I believe that also. The Fed is artificially keeping the stock market up and I will not invest until they get out
18 posted on 01/07/2011 5:22:28 AM PST by 2001convSVT (That Beck guy was right about gold, too.)
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To: Rabin

Weirdly written article, but a highly accurate conclusion.

Things that have gone up a lot in price are not likely to go up a lot more. Exceptions exist, but that’s the way to bet.

Things that will appreciate a lot in value in the future are generally by definition considered to be of little value now. To make a lot of money, all you need to do is figure out which low-value items will appreciate. Again, by definition, you will seldom find articles plugging them.

Good luck with that. :)


19 posted on 01/11/2011 7:17:40 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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