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Social Security Fund to Be Empty by 2037 (and now the Government gets to ruin healthcare!)
Fox News ^ | 1/27/2011 | ap

Posted on 01/27/2011 3:31:36 AM PST by tobyhill

Sick and getting sicker, Social Security will run at a deficit this year and keep on running in the red until its trust funds are drained by about 2037, congressional budget experts said Wednesday in bleaker-than-previous estimates.

The massive retirement program has been suffering from the effects of the struggling economy for several years. It first went into deficit last year but had been projected to post surpluses for a few more years before permanently slipping into the red in 2016.

This year alone, Social Security will pay out $45 billion more in retirement, disability and survivors' benefits than it collects in payroll taxes, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said. That figure nearly triples -- to $130 billion -- when the new one-year cut in payroll taxes is included.

Congress has promised to replenish any lost revenue from the tax cut, but that's hardly good news, either, adding to the federal budget deficit. In another sobering estimate, the congressional office said government red ink this year will increase to $1.5 trillion, the most in U.S. history.

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KEYWORDS: govtracketeering; ponzischeme; socialsecurity
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1 posted on 01/27/2011 3:31:40 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

This is really bad. The politicians can no longer rob the SS trust fund. It is an expense for the first time. Whatever will they do?


2 posted on 01/27/2011 3:34:12 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: tobyhill

Isn’t the trust fund essentially empty now? Doesn’t it just consist of IOU’s which the Govt. would have to borrow money to cover? It’s essentially a pay as you go system that we don’t have the cash flow to cover.


3 posted on 01/27/2011 3:44:06 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity
It is empty now but they could always claim their solvency with “projected” revenues through taxes and estimated amount of retirees. Now they are claiming there won't be enough taxes for the future to cover for all the retirees past that date.
4 posted on 01/27/2011 3:49:57 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Look for retirement age to be 75 while welfare recipients and Union workers along with Federal employees keep taking from the coffers.


5 posted on 01/27/2011 3:53:32 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: tobyhill

And nary a word is spoke about the millions of acres of land and other property the gov’t owns, which could sold to approved buyers to help get us thru these times. But Hilary can give 500 millon to Mexico.


6 posted on 01/27/2011 4:00:54 AM PST by Waco (From Seward to Sarah.)
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To: tobyhill

had been projected to post surpluses for a few more years before permanently slipping into the red in 2016.

Hahahahaha


7 posted on 01/27/2011 4:12:34 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: tobyhill

Oh I’m sure it will UNEXPECTEDLY run dry long before 2037.


8 posted on 01/27/2011 4:17:31 AM PST by eak3
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To: tobyhill

Oh come on we’re only $14 trillion in debt.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/


9 posted on 01/27/2011 4:20:04 AM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: tobyhill

The SS fund is empty right now.


10 posted on 01/27/2011 4:23:03 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Hoodat

2037 is the final year they think they can bamboozle us.


11 posted on 01/27/2011 4:29:51 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: circlecity

Yes it’s empty now, filled with bonds that the government wrote to itself. To refill it, they’ll have to borrow private money to repay those bonds.

It’s all borrowed money.


12 posted on 01/27/2011 4:37:28 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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There is really no difference between now and 2037. All expenditures in excess of the amount collected from FICA tax revenues will be paid through the General Fund.

That wasn't supposed to begin until 2017, but thanks to Obama's brilliant leadership [sic], it started last year. So in a practical sense, the whole 2037 concept is meaningless. Whether there is some IOU sitting in the Social Security vault or not, the money still will come from the General Fund.

At this point, all the government can do to help itself is to begin rationing (i.e. denying) health coverage for retirees. And if you recall back during the 2008 campaign, Obama lectured us that 80% of America's total health care costs go towards those who are 65 and older, and that he was going to reduce the cost of health care. Heck, even a Democrat should be able to figure that one out.

13 posted on 01/27/2011 4:55:34 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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UNEXPECTED?????


14 posted on 01/27/2011 5:14:53 AM PST by evad (Every time a RINO is defeated, a liberal cries)
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To: tobyhill

UNEXPECTED?????


15 posted on 01/27/2011 5:14:57 AM PST by evad (Every time a RINO is defeated, a liberal cries)
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To: Hoodat
So in a practical sense, the whole 2037 concept is meaningless. Whether there is some IOU sitting in the Social Security vault or not, the money still will come from the General Fund.

Like writing yourself a check and putting it in your own account.

An unsharpened pencil...pointless.

16 posted on 01/27/2011 5:18:26 AM PST by evad (Every time a RINO is defeated, a liberal cries)
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To: tobyhill

First of all they could quit adding millions of young people who don’t like to work to the rolls for a variety of excuses, including pot heads with headaches requiring “medical marijuana”.
Then they could take all Medicare beneficiaries who have their own insurance and make that insurance primary and SS secondary. Medicare is a big give away to insurance companies because once a person turns 65 all they pay in benefits is 20% of what Medicare “authorizes”.


17 posted on 01/27/2011 5:18:32 AM PST by midwyf (Wyoming Native. Environmentalism is a religion too.)
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18 posted on 01/27/2011 5:30:05 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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2037? How?
Social security went into deficit last year. That means their broke. Projected to post surpluses? Based on what? More payroll taxes while more and more people get laid off?
2011 payout will be $45,000,000,000 more that it collects.

The math doesn’t work.

They are effectively sending out IOU’s.


19 posted on 01/27/2011 5:30:33 AM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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Are the Chinese not willing to back up our government administered retirement program?

It's getting to the point of being an embarrassment to proclaim being a voter any more.

20 posted on 01/27/2011 5:35:36 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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