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Posted on 02/14/2011 10:54:48 AM PST by Scythian

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To: MWestMom
I’d pick the nuke. I know where I’m going if one of those hits my neighborhood and I’m fine with it. Dirty bomb, not so much, messy awful business that I don’t want to deal with.

Do all your neighbors know where they're going if the nuke hits? You'd sacrifice their lives to avoid dealing with a mess?

81 posted on 02/14/2011 4:41:56 PM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: joe fonebone

I live very near the border and work at a Port of Entry. I know there are a lot of measures in place to stop radioactive material from crossing, and thank goodness for that. I also know that no system is flawless. I know many people who are tasked with that job and never once has one of them said without a doubt it can’t be done. Technology is not without issues, there are miles and miles of open country to cover, not to mention private aircraft. Never say never.


82 posted on 02/14/2011 4:46:36 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: xjcsa
Do all your neighbors know where they're going if the nuke hits? You'd sacrifice their lives to avoid dealing with a mess?

I believe he's saying that he'd rather die quickly due to instant incineration rather than slowly due to radiation poisoning.
83 posted on 02/14/2011 4:48:04 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: ASOC

Watermelon trucks and or containers.....trust me !....:o)


84 posted on 02/14/2011 4:52:43 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: xjcsa

Do all your neighbors know where they’re going if the nuke hits? You’d sacrifice their lives to avoid dealing with a mess?


I hope they do. Not my decision to sacrifice their lives or not. This is just how I feel about either/or. I’m disabled and there wouldn’t be a lot of dealing with anything if I were at ground zero of a dirty bomb. Personal observation only.


85 posted on 02/14/2011 4:53:00 PM PST by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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To: archy; Travis McGee

Just a couple hundred cases of old style coleman lantern mantels ......;o)


86 posted on 02/14/2011 4:54:59 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: joe fonebone; bvw
....(hint, if you line a 10 foot wide by 10 foot high by 40 foot long trailer with enough lead to shield detection of a 1 foot cube of uranium. there is not a crane large enough in the world to pick it up, let alone load and unload it from a boat) get the hint....

Well, I did the math, and according to my calculations, if you put a cf of U in the trailer, and filled the rest of it up with Pb, 3,999 cf, then the cargo would weigh 1,422.23 tons.

The Thialf, a tandem lift crane, can lift 14,200 tons, so our trailer load is about 10% of its lifting capacity. The Mammoet can lift 4,000 tons.

Please feel free to check my calculations.

87 posted on 02/14/2011 5:32:44 PM PST by VMI70
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To: fhayek

Obama would never allow anyone to attack his homeland...


88 posted on 02/14/2011 5:52:07 PM PST by Typical_Whitey ("It doesn't matter how smart you are, unless you stop and think".... Thomas Sowell)
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To: joe fonebone

The best way to prevent a dirty bomb explosion is if terrorists know that in retaliation we will nuke either their country or their general headquarters.

This is a behavioral phenomenon, just as the provocation of aggression by a display of weakness is a behavioral phenomenon.

Yes, dirty bombs can come from outside our borders.


89 posted on 02/14/2011 6:03:10 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Relativism is the intellectual death knell of progressive ideology.)
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To: Scythian

Border security bump for later...........


90 posted on 02/14/2011 6:10:46 PM PST by indthkr
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To: SVTCobra03
Buy your Potassium Iodide tout suite!
91 posted on 02/14/2011 6:14:21 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: indthkr; All


"The system worked"
92 posted on 02/14/2011 6:15:51 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Scythian

is anyone serprized?


93 posted on 02/14/2011 6:16:20 PM PST by floriduh voter (I miss my flip flops and summer clothes. Mr. Weatherman, do something!)
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To: CPT Clay

I’ll say it again.....Thank God for Wikileaks.


94 posted on 02/14/2011 6:20:16 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Red in Blue PA
Don't do it. KI is a thyroid blocker. It only blocks uptake of radioiodine, the most common radioisotopic form being 131I, which has a half-life of eight days. That means only releases from an operating reactor core or very freshly-removed fuel from a reactor core would have a significant source term for 131I. This is almost impossibly unlikely as a significant component of a RRD (”Dirty Bomb”). The most likely source term for a RRD would derive from perhaps a barrel of mixed waste that you might get from a hospital or low-level waste disposal operation. While radioiodine is used in some tyroid uptake studies and scans, the quantities are very small, especially those that end up in the waste stream. More likely are things like 32P and tritium, and KI won't help or that.
95 posted on 02/14/2011 6:25:22 PM PST by chimera
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To: chimera

Thank God for the gibmint....I would have never thought of these:

If you are outside and close to the incident

•Cover your nose and mouth with a cloth to reduce the risk of breathing in radioactive dust or smoke.
•Don’t touch objects thrown off by an explosion—they might be radioactive.

http://www.bt.cdc.gov/radiation/dirtybombs.asp

BTW, you are spot on:

http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa061402a.htm


96 posted on 02/14/2011 6:31:20 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Scythian
When.

Not If.

97 posted on 02/14/2011 6:33:39 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (The issue? "Responsibility" for this mess. Obama ? Or the AMERICAN PEOPLE for putting him in there?)
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To: fhayek

Well, unless both Obama and Biden both are impeached (or otherwise) and have no chance to swear in a successor to block Boehner, then over the next two years, that possibility is ZERO. Obama would never do it. As a Muslim he could never do it.


98 posted on 02/14/2011 6:35:50 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (The issue? "Responsibility" for this mess. Obama ? Or the AMERICAN PEOPLE for putting him in there?)
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To: VMI70

It is good there are such knowledgeable posters on FR (seriously).


99 posted on 02/14/2011 6:36:04 PM PST by daniel1212 ( "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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To: Westbrook
Yes, the material itself and the tritium triggers do require replacement - tritium more often than fissle material... But their are plenty of former Soviet scientists out there with the skillset to do so for the amount of money that the terrorists are willing to pay. Think about it... You go from being a fairly well fed skilled technician/laborer to an unemployed hungry person and someone says "We will pay you $25,000 American if you will do this for us no questions asked." Not only "not impossible", but instead, "very possible."

Raven6

100 posted on 02/14/2011 6:38:41 PM PST by Raven6 (The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.)
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