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VIDEO: Montana Rep. Bob Wagner Defends His Birther' Bill
Flathead Beacon ^ | 02/16/2011 | Kellyn Brown

Posted on 02/16/2011 12:13:15 PM PST by FreeAtlanta

CNN's Anderson Cooper interviewed Rep. Bob Wagner, R-Harrison, regarding his “birther” bill, which would require presidential candidates to provide the state with a valid copy of his or her birth certificate. During the interview Wagner said that he's unsure if President Barack Obama was born in the United States (he was, in fact, born in Hawaii). Wagner also.. posted using frpa

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News
KEYWORDS: alleged; allegedamerican; allegedcitizen; allegedhawaiian; allegedjournalists; allegedpresident; allegedreporter; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama
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I am getting a kick out of all these "objective" journalists inserting things like "he was, in fact, born in Hawaii" or "incorrectly believes he was not born in Hawaii", etc.

They never fail to use the term "alleged" when it comes to criminals. Even ones caught on video gunning down people or even the 911 hijackers. They are allegedly pathetic, even though the evidence is overwhelming.

1 posted on 02/16/2011 12:13:23 PM PST by FreeAtlanta
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To: FreeAtlanta
"(he was, in fact, born in Hawaii)."

Not according to all the evidence I have seen...

2 posted on 02/16/2011 12:16:14 PM PST by Mr. K (At some point, a productive person chooses to stop acquiescing in his own slavery)
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To: FreeAtlanta
If he was “in fact born in Hawaii” then this law is harmless and only dots “i”s and crosses “t”s which we should all expect when it comes to something as important as electing the President of the United States.
3 posted on 02/16/2011 12:16:27 PM PST by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
If he was “in fact born in Hawaii” then this law is harmless and only dots “i”s and crosses “t”s which we should all expect when it comes to something as important as electing the President of the United States.
4 posted on 02/16/2011 12:16:59 PM PST by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

WTF names their asshole kid Kellyn??????? A fag for sure!


5 posted on 02/16/2011 12:17:34 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: FreeAtlanta

The media and TV are ALL a joke including Fox now. They all support Hussein. This bill needs to get passed. We need it in at least 5 states and it has to be written so it is iron clad and gets enforced by the state AG.


6 posted on 02/16/2011 12:20:02 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Doc Savage

Kellyn is probably an OK name for a girl. What am I missing?


7 posted on 02/16/2011 12:20:12 PM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
he was, in fact, born in Hawaii

And you know that how? It was alleged? Hearsay? Third party verification? Heard it thru the grape vine? Let's see the proof. Without the long form BC we don't know jack and anyone that says they do is either a liar or just plain stupid (or insane).

8 posted on 02/16/2011 12:23:00 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Why doesn’t Cooper ask Abercrombie where Obama was born? Is he afraid he will get the same answer?


9 posted on 02/16/2011 12:23:22 PM PST by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: FreeAtlanta

The conspiracy theorist in me wonders what the “Birth Certificate” controversy is distracting us from. It’s NEVER what you think it is.


10 posted on 02/16/2011 12:23:52 PM PST by wolfpat (Veni. Vidi. Veneer: I came. I saw. I made plywood.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
I don't see this as so much a birther issue as it is common sense. If the Rats want all sorts of illegals flooding over the border, doesn't it make good policy to check potential POTUS candidates of their paperwork? Throw this back at that little slap bitch Cooper and see what he has to say.


11 posted on 02/16/2011 12:25:44 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Were obammy born in Hawaii and all things in his past were hunkie dorie, then WHY has this marxist turd spent by all accounts, millions to keep EVERYONE from reading his true past???????


12 posted on 02/16/2011 12:27:08 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: FreeAtlanta

“...(he was, in fact, born in Hawaii)...”

I don’t think we can say “in fact”. According to the Governor of Hawaii and at least two other sources, they couldn’t find the birth certificate, so how do we know that obama was “in fact” born in Hawaii?


13 posted on 02/16/2011 12:27:25 PM PST by Castigar
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All right! Another thread! I made two comments on another thread with transcripts of the show so I'll share them here as well...
COOPER: Well, you heard Representative Wagner allude to the 14th Amendment and the standard it sets for who is considered a naturalized born American citizen. Until recently, that wasn't in question, nor was a candidate's citizenship.
What an idiot!
As is clearly seen Cooper alluded to the 14th, not Wagner...
COOPER: Well, that's not what is in the 14th Amendment.

And this one... Now, in a moment, senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin is going to talk about the constitutional facts the supporters of birther legislation appear to be getting wrong, in his opinion.
Anderson Cooper accepts Jeffrey Toobin's opinions as facts.

14 posted on 02/16/2011 12:37:06 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: FreeAtlanta

If one of these so-called “birther bills” gets passed, Obama will have no choice but to provide his documentation. If he doesn’t, things would get very interesting. What excuse could he offer?


15 posted on 02/16/2011 12:37:29 PM PST by NailInACoffin
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To: Mr. K
"(he was, in fact, born in Hawaii)."

Well, there you go then! He was born in Hawaii!

So it shouldn't take him more than 72 hours to produce the document for public examination.

Glad that's settled!

16 posted on 02/16/2011 12:41:22 PM PST by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
According to the White House Insider emails at Newsflavor.com, there is serious concern over this very issue of states legislating this type of requirement. Elections are run by each state - it's not a Federal obligation. So any state can adopt a rule like this legislatively and there's not much to be done at a federal level. Their Jarrett strategy is exactly what Cooper is doing: attack such legislation outright as “crazy” or “misguided” before it's enacted; or if such legislation is enacted hope it's confined to merely 1 or 2 states so the White House can brand such states as racist. The true concern from the White House is that if a large number of states enact such legislation because it's harder to paint the racist charge over a swath that wide. Cooper eveidently got the White House memo and is running with it. Their hope is more will do the same. That said, their is a genuine fear that legislation like this spreads. Seems like such legislation would be best passed in the near future, after Obama officially becomes the nominee, leaving less time for a replacement to gain traction if such requirements force him to withdraw.
17 posted on 02/16/2011 12:41:22 PM PST by antonico
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To: NailInACoffin

If one gets passed he will either not run or try have the courts negate it


18 posted on 02/16/2011 12:44:45 PM PST by Ratman83
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To: FreeAtlanta
Even if Comrade Obama had been born in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House he is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.
19 posted on 02/16/2011 12:45:29 PM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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...to the 14th Amendment and the standard it sets for who is considered a naturalized born American citizen.
Notice the wording...naturalized born, not natural born.
Nobody else is even noticing it...yet.

I was a little off the other day.

"I hope Jeff does a piece on Anderson Cooper's show as well. Including the slips of the tongue like with "naturalization" when speaking about the 14th Amendment.
And why didn't he get a Constitutional scholar instead of a paid analyst for additional comment?"

20 posted on 02/16/2011 12:45:42 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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