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Navy ensign given discharge; cited Quaker beliefs
AP via SFGate ^ | 2/22/11

Posted on 02/22/2011 8:04:08 AM PST by SmithL

Hartford, Conn. (AP) -- Officials say a junior officer at a Connecticut submarine base has received an honorable discharge after suing the Navy, saying his Quaker beliefs prevent him from participating in war.

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As part of his honorable discharge, he will reimburse the Navy for his education.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: conscientious; ensign; military; navy; objector; quaker; submarine; usna; usnavy
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Maybe, someone should have explained what military service meant, BEFORE he enrolled in the Naval Academy.
1 posted on 02/22/2011 8:04:10 AM PST by SmithL
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2 posted on 02/22/2011 8:05:59 AM PST by SmithL
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Didn’t he know he was Quaker and what their beliefs are BEFORE he joined the Navy?


3 posted on 02/22/2011 8:09:41 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: SmithL

Hmm, what a coincidence. There was an episode of JAG years ago about a Navy doctor who was coincidentally, a Quaker and almost mirrors the same situation in the story.


4 posted on 02/22/2011 8:10:18 AM PST by max americana
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an honorable discharge???

my recollection is that in similar discharges is years past it was less than honorable - some type of general discharge.

5 posted on 02/22/2011 8:11:27 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SmithL

Engign. Must have been a new ring knocker. How is he going to pay for 200,000 in education?


6 posted on 02/22/2011 8:11:36 AM PST by artificial intelligence (Your data will be processed by me for future input. Thank you.)
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To: SmithL

These are the same yokels who signed up for service back in the 90s when Clintoon was in office just to get money for college and then went apeshit when we got into Gulf War II.

“I didn’t sign up for this!” they say, but... you’re in... the military... the MILITARY. You trained for it. You may not have to use it, but if you do, you’re expected to fight.


7 posted on 02/22/2011 8:11:57 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: SmithL

I can think of another Quaker naval officer. He later became President.


8 posted on 02/22/2011 8:12:27 AM PST by stormer
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What part of Navy WARship does he not understand?


9 posted on 02/22/2011 8:13:37 AM PST by italianquaker ( teabag the vote!!)
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To: artificial intelligence

One nickel at a time. Sideways.

;-)


10 posted on 02/22/2011 8:14:25 AM PST by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: SmithL

LCDR Richard M. Nixon, Quaker

11 posted on 02/22/2011 8:15:26 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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If you are right, the saddest part is that some otherwise qualified and motivated individual didn’t get a slot because this POS took it. Sorry, but truth hurts sometimes.


12 posted on 02/22/2011 8:16:06 AM PST by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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Yeah, but was he a Quaker, Quaker?

Let’s ask Whoopi.


13 posted on 02/22/2011 8:18:56 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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the saddest part is that some otherwise qualified and motivated individual didn’t get a slot because this POS took it.
I'm not so sure. Didn't I just see/read a news story where the military academies are bending all the rules to get more (less than qualified) minorities on board?
14 posted on 02/22/2011 8:31:33 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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That’s nothing new IMO. There’s an English prof there who has been crusading on that issue, and it’s hard to disagree with him.


15 posted on 02/22/2011 8:42:51 AM PST by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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"Let’s ask Whoopi."

You mean let's ask 'Phoopi-Mouth Dung-for-Brains'?

16 posted on 02/22/2011 8:47:29 AM PST by wmileo
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he will reimburse the Navy for his education

How about his free room and board, his medical and dental care, his clothing allowance, and double that amount just because he's a loser.

17 posted on 02/22/2011 8:54:07 AM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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As part of his honorable discharge, he will reimburse the Navy for his education.

Well if they want to get rid of him then fine. I'm glad to see they're forcing him to pay for his education.

18 posted on 02/22/2011 9:00:29 AM PST by K-Stater
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Exactly what did he think is the purpose and function of the US Navy?

Did he get the Navy recruiter’s office confused with the recruiting office seeking religious missionaries for Africa?


19 posted on 02/22/2011 9:08:32 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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Quakers were allowed and have served in the military as Conscientious Objectors (CO). The CO’s were assigned to medical duties where they did not have to bear arms in combat. Some CO’s worked in EOD (explosive ordnance disposal). Apparently, the Navy doesn't feel it needs CO’s any more? I don't know what policy is in regard to them.
20 posted on 02/22/2011 9:16:48 AM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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