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Libya Alhurra ^ | March 19, 2011 | Live chat

Posted on 03/19/2011 9:16:36 AM PDT by gandalftb

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To: cripplecreek

There was a most revealing scene in the classic film “Lawrence of Arabia” that expresses the muslim penchant — indeed, REQUIREMENT — to lie to non-muslims to further their cause.

Go to 4:45 in the link directly below to see that scene.
(I’ve just learned that the link I wished to use has been scrubbed due to a copyright claim by Sony Pictures. The scene in question had Sir Alex Guiness’ character (King Faisal) remarking that Lawrence SHOULD be a GOOD LIAR as “…he’s almost an Arab.”)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZHKujjul-I (LINK REMOVED FROM YOUTUBE allegedly for “Copyright” issues. R I G H T!!)
If you STILL don’t think the West is under attack, you are clearly delusional.
THEN go to the link at the bottom for a real eye-opener!

The below message from my contact, a retired USAF Fighter Pilot (served in combat), living in Alaska. He is fluent in Arabic reading as well as speaking, and has read the Qu ran in the original Arabic. He vouches for the content of the Video presented in the link below. Below are his words to his correspondents. I suppress his name and e-mail address to protect him as he has previously received death threats for what he has published. See the video and wonder why, the best known apostate in the world (BHO) from Islam has not had a FATWA of death issued by the Jihaddist Imams of the world!

A group calling themselves “White Roses” created a video to inform non-Muslims about Islam. The name of this video is Three Things About Islam
White Roses is head quartered in Sweden. This first version is in English. The name “White Roses” is based on a student resistance group “Die weiße Rose” in Nazi Germany. The group became known for an anonymous leaflet campaign, from June 1942 until February 1943, which called for active opposition to Adolf Hitler’s regime.

I urge all of you to view this video. You may be familiar with the points made in this video but many Americans are not, either out of a desire to put their heads in the sand to avoid confronting the problem or just simple ignorance of the crisis we face. It may not be possible to get all the Dramatis Persona to acknowledge this Islamic road to perdition but those Americans, who just do not know, out of ignorance, just might find the learning experience worthwhile.

As a person who has spent lengthy time studying Islam I can tell you this video is one of the best I have seen…it’s short and to the point and all those points are dead on!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded


41 posted on 03/19/2011 11:12:19 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (2012 CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH FOR ME. HOW ABOUT YOU?)
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To: gandalftb

Geez.....tragic.


42 posted on 03/19/2011 11:16:03 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Payback for the killing of Americans on the airline over Scotland.


43 posted on 03/19/2011 11:18:06 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: cripplecreek

There was a most revealing scene in the classic film “Lawrence of Arabia” that expresses the muslim penchant — indeed, REQUIREMENT — to lie to non-muslims to further their cause.

Go to 4:45 in the link directly below to see that scene.
(I’ve just learned that the link I wished to use has been scrubbed due to a copyright claim by Sony Pictures. The scene in question had Sir Alex Guiness’ character (King Faisal) remarking that Lawrence SHOULD be a GOOD LIAR as “…he’s almost an Arab.”)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZHKujjul-I (LINK REMOVED FROM YOUTUBE allegedly for “Copyright” issues. R I G H T!!)
If you STILL don’t think the West is under attack, you are clearly delusional.
THEN go to the link at the bottom for a real eye-opener!

The below message from my contact, a retired USAF Fighter Pilot (served in combat), living in Alaska. He is fluent in Arabic reading as well as speaking, and has read the Qu ran in the original Arabic. He vouches for the content of the Video presented in the link below. Below are his words to his correspondents. I suppress his name and e-mail address to protect him as he has previously received death threats for what he has published. See the video and wonder why, the best known apostate in the world (BHO) from Islam has not had a FATWA of death issued by the Jihaddist Imams of the world!

A group calling themselves “White Roses” created a video to inform non-Muslims about Islam. The name of this video is Three Things About Islam
White Roses is head quartered in Sweden. This first version is in English. The name “White Roses” is based on a student resistance group “Die weiße Rose” in Nazi Germany. The group became known for an anonymous leaflet campaign, from June 1942 until February 1943, which called for active opposition to Adolf Hitler’s regime.

I urge all of you to view this video. You may be familiar with the points made in this video but many Americans are not, either out of a desire to put their heads in the sand to avoid confronting the problem or just simple ignorance of the crisis we face. It may not be possible to get all the Dramatis Persona to acknowledge this Islamic road to perdition but those Americans, who just do not know, out of ignorance, just might find the learning experience worthwhile.

As a person who has spent lengthy time studying Islam I can tell you this video is one of the best I have seen…it’s short and to the point and all those points are dead on!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded


44 posted on 03/19/2011 11:21:56 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (2012 CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH FOR ME. HOW ABOUT YOU?)
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To: cripplecreek

NOTICE TO ALL FOREIGN CITIZENS and THEIR GOVERNMENTS!
(EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY)

1. As a sovereign nation, you have the same rights to govern your nation as we have. Whether freely elected or despotic tyranny, how you run your government and DOMESTIC affairs is between you and your leaders. If you people don’t like how your government is behaving, we suggest you read some American history for the period between, say, 1774 and 1789. The world is awash in various sorts of small arms and other weapons. Getting enough to turn out your tyrant-du-jour ought not be a problem. Yes, many people will die (just as they did HERE in the late 1700s). It’s the price of freedom. But — and this is important to us — our SOLDIERS will not be among the dead. And even MORE importantly, MY kids and grandkids won’t be there. And trust us when we tell you that the casualties of your revolution will pale compared to those you will suffer should we be forced to invoke Clause 3!

2. Please pay SPECIAL attention to the word “domestic” in number 1.

3. The MINUTE we become privy to firm, corroborated intelligence that you have plans to harm the United States or one of our recognized allies — or, worst case — DO, in fact carry out such an operation, the United States and any such allies who wish to assist will come to you and request that you cease and desist. If you refuse to do so, we will TURN MOST OF YOUR LAND INTO A SMOKING RUIN. If you’ve never seen RUBBLE BOUNCE, it’s quite a sight. Just as the Japanese saw that in 1945, we saw a good bit of that on 9/11 – and will never forget it. The Japanese never forgot it – and neither will those of you who survive! We include in this list of threats AIDING, ABETTING, HARBORING, TRAINING OR SUPPLYING THOSE WHO, ALTHOUGH NOT CITIZENS OF YOUR NATION, MAKE PLANS TO HARM US OR AN ALLY.

We wish to live and have peaceful, honest and fair trade with all peoples — BUT harm us or injure/kill American/allied citizens AND YOUR WORLD AS YOU HAVE KNOWN IT WILL SIMPLY GO AWAY — FOREVER. No more PC “Nation Building” crap. Our military will be employed ONLY for those tasks for which they have been traditionally trained throughout history: TO KILL ENEMY TROOPS AND DESTROY ENOUGH OF THE ENEMY’S “STUFF” TO CAUSE THEM TO QUIT THE FIGHT. If some of you think we need “Nation Builders,” send in the UN — from which America will have withdrawn and “off-shored” to somewhere in Europe. (and good luck with these clowns).

(If you have never seen it, slide on down to Blockbuster and rent “The Day the Earth Stood Still” with Arabic/Farsi subtitles, of course. REREAD 3 AND THINK “GORT.”)

And also remember that, since we have pulled our guys out of other nations and closed those bases – horribly costly activities with which we are no longer burdened — we have devoted those diverted resources to new, more effective human intelligence gathering methods using many of YOUR citizens as paid snitches (no more stupid Church Amendment!) so we WILL KNOW when you’re up to no good. And don’t forget that those freed up resources will allow development of more devastating weapons should we need them. Trust us when we tell you that they’re really cool.

4. And speaking of “cool,” once those smoking ruins have sufficiently cooled – and the radiation levels have fallen — we will put boots on the ground, clear any remaining resistance and seize your former property for the benefit of those who participated in the neutralization of the threat you posed. Casualties among our troops should be very limited because, as we think you have seen, the weapons possessed by the United States will leave very few to resist. REREAD 4 AND THINK 51st STATE!

Call us with any QUESTIONS. Or visit our web site at www.bendoverandkissyourassgoodbye.gov

Thank you for your support in this vital matter.
The SANE People of the United States of America (all 30 of us).

Until this becomes our policy, we continue to honor those who have paid the ultimate price for the freedoms so many of us now take for granted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WDrbbtaO0E
A photo was recently posted on the web showing a white board in a Marine barracks in Iraq on which one trooper had written the following:
“America is NOT at war. The United States military is at war. America is at the MALL!”

Indeed!

PS: Once we rid ourselves of Obama and his thugs, we’re going to tap our OWN natural resources so we won’t be needing all that petroleum from the Middle East. You folks over there might want to accelerate your program to convert sand and oil into something edible. Later, dudes!!


45 posted on 03/19/2011 11:23:49 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (2012 CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH FOR ME. HOW ABOUT YOU?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Looks like 4 tanks were destroyed, such a waste because Qadaffi will be gone soon anyway and his loyalists will suffer retaliation when the Qadaffi family takes the money and runs.


46 posted on 03/19/2011 11:27:46 AM PDT by gandalftb (Fighting jihadists is like fighting an earthquake, harden yourselves.)
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To: Happy Rain
Our first enemies were Indians—different cultures clashed—real world wars of conquest—doesn't matter why or who started it or who was in the right as far as history is concerned—it got bloody and we won and now the descendants of the losers ally themselves with the Left and then used political correctness to get revenge.

Haha, now that Is PC! We absolutely Obliterated the Indians, and we didn't have to....its not just "real world wars of conquest". And the Indians getting revenge? How exactly? The comment about Islamists using PC and the left is correct, it just has little to do with the Indians. Its like saying "sun shines and moon shines so sun=moon".
47 posted on 03/19/2011 11:54:56 AM PDT by kroll
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To: gandalftb; Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; ...

Thanks for the pings g & e!


48 posted on 03/19/2011 12:07:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Dick Bachert
Thank you! I've heard interviews with both of these authors and these works seem to come highly recommended.:

Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives have Penetrated Washington, Paul Sperry

and

Stealth Jihad: How Radical Islam is Subverting America without Guns or Bombs,

and

The Complete Infidel's Guide to the Koran, Robert Spencer.

49 posted on 03/19/2011 12:08:41 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: kroll

I would like to get rich by building a casino in a state where white man casinos are illegal—oh but I can’t because my ancestors beat the Indians so only they can build a casino because I am the bad pale face made to pay for Custer’s sins.

Pure PC.

Want more examples?


50 posted on 03/19/2011 12:09:32 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("WARNING" -Sarah Palin is a very dangerous woman--she defends herself when attacked.)
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To: gandalftb

Fox News just reported that US cruise missile strikes to happen “within the hour”


51 posted on 03/19/2011 12:11:19 PM PDT by jhpigott (North Korea - The land of lousy options)
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To: jhpigott

Al Jazeera just had a streaming headline saying “US presently has 4 submarines in Mediterranean preparing for operations.”


52 posted on 03/19/2011 12:17:15 PM PDT by norcal joe
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To: norcal joe

Oops, they just changed it to “3 submarines.” Did we lose one?


53 posted on 03/19/2011 12:18:39 PM PDT by norcal joe
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To: Raycpa; Ernest_at_the_Beach; no-to-illegals; SE Mom; Marine_Uncle; All

What year(s) were these slogans written? Regarding the shoot down of the plane. I was listening to BBC at 4 am, when they intereviewing a reporter in Benghazi. He reported seeing this jet flying around over B, but not apparently doing anything. Then it’s tail was on fire and it crashed about 6 miles from the center of B on the west side. There was also a lot of gun/shell? fire on that side of town, which is were Kaddafi’s troops would have been.


54 posted on 03/19/2011 12:20:10 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: jhpigott; norcal joe

The subs USS Florida and the USS Providence are on station.


55 posted on 03/19/2011 12:34:04 PM PDT by gandalftb (Fighting jihadists is like fighting an earthquake, harden yourselves.)
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To: gandalftb

The third one is the USS Newport News. We’ll likely launch the Tomahawks from subs. Surface ships are available but the subs need the work and it will show others what we can sneak up and do.


56 posted on 03/19/2011 12:39:46 PM PDT by gandalftb (Fighting jihadists is like fighting an earthquake, harden yourselves.)
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To: gleeaikin
What year(s) were these slogans written?

sorry gleeaikin ... slogans never did interest me much.
regarding the plane, there appears to be some confusion
as to this being a rebel plane or a qadaffi plane. Shortly
if the Tomahawks launch there will be many precise strikes.
I, as everyone else except those making the launches,
will have to see where the targets are.

57 posted on 03/19/2011 12:54:39 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: gandalftb

“horizon east of Tripoli a wall of fire” - AFP


58 posted on 03/19/2011 12:54:57 PM PDT by jhpigott (North Korea - The land of lousy options)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Things are heating up. Guess this weeks news will be dominated by Libyan events.


59 posted on 03/19/2011 1:29:41 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: gandalftb
Party on!

Reuters Pictures 1 hour ago U.S. first lady Michelle Obama makes a toast a lunch at the Palacio do Itamaraty in Brasilia, March 19, 2011.

60 posted on 03/19/2011 1:30:38 PM PDT by maggief
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