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To: tje
I’ve heard about this being a possibility before. Is there some hard evidence or is this just more speculation?

Not only is it pure speculation without a shred of evidence backing it up, it's not even pluasible.

Generally, it's a lot easier to get financial aid for college if you are a US citizen. There are very few scholarships, grants, or student loans that are available to foreigners.

I have yet to see a single birther identify a single scholarship that was available to Indonesian citizens but not US citizens at Occidental.

128 posted on 03/21/2011 10:01:27 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
Colleges look for diversity in their classes, so the issue may not have been about scholarships but gaining admission to the school. Being Indonesian would have been a very exotic addition to the class.

Anyway...The above is pure speculation. There are more than enough solid **facts** regarding Obama’s eligibility that should sound the alarm for any reasonable person.

141 posted on 03/21/2011 11:06:31 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: curiosity

“Radical Muslim Cleric Lied to Qualify for U.S.-Funded College Scholarship”

“A former diplomatic security agent who was tasked with investigating Awlaki immediately after the Sept. 11 attacks told Fox News that the Yemeni-American national apparently lied on his visa application to attend Colorado State University, where he studied engineering. Rather than tell U.S. immigration officials that he was born in Las Cruces, N.M., in 1971, Awlaki stated that the was foreign born, the security agent, Ray Fournier, said.
Awlaki received $20,000 in scholarship money from a U.S. government program for his schooling in Fort Collins, Colo. When asked if Awlaki was eligible, Fournier said, “No, he is absolutely forbidden to have it.””

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/12/radical-muslim-cleric-lied-qualify-funded-college-scholarship/


185 posted on 03/21/2011 8:37:50 PM PDT by PwrPencil
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To: curiosity; tje
I have yet to see a single birther identify a single scholarship that was available to Indonesian citizens but not US citizens at Occidental.

Seems you haven't seen much. How do you get scholarship for a U.S. citizens, when you ARE a foreigner, huh???

191 posted on 03/21/2011 11:13:05 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: curiosity

Generally, it’s a lot easier to get financial aid for college if you are a US citizen. There are very few scholarships, grants, or student loans that are available to foreigners.


Sorry, but I must disagree with your premise—facts don’t support?! It is very plausible.

I have not scoured Occy website regarding scholarships, and that would would likely be waste of time as he attended years ago. However, in a quick google, I found a website listing with many schools offering various forms of financial aid to foreign students—up to 450. This was one search on google:

http://www.edupass.org/finaid/undergraduate.phtml

As far as aid goes today, many states universities are waiving out-of-state tuition for illegal immigrants—that is a scholarship! In fact, that is the same scholarship that is offered to many out-of-state students wishing to attend state schools in states other than their own. Usually, good grades (B or better are required for these. These waivers are considered scholarships. How do I know about this? My 3 children went to out-of-state schools on these waivers.

Regarding the past when barry would have attended, in the late 70s and early 80’s, I worked at a flagship STATE university (Big 10/Super 12-sized school). I helped foreign students with their admissions to graduate school. In my experience, foreign students routinely had their out-of-state tuition waived if they could show $500/month support. Some sort of loophole! At that time there was a push for Detante and diplomacy and a theory that if we allowed foreign students to attend our universities, we would be making future connections for when these students would be leading their countries, etc. Perhaps these waivers don’t exist today, eh perhaps they do. But more importantly,

They did exist. so yes there were (and likely still are) scholarships for foreign students. As Occidental is an expensive private school, they can structure scholarships however they wish. Of course barry would try to maximize his tuition dollars—if he could come in as foreign student and save money, why wouldn’t he? If they had waivers at state schools, I would be very surprised if they did not exist at expensive private schools.

I think it is very plausible.


194 posted on 03/21/2011 11:47:51 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: curiosity

“Radical Muslim Cleric Lied to Qualify for U.S.-Funded College Scholarship”

“A former diplomatic security agent who was tasked with investigating Awlaki immediately after the Sept. 11 attacks told Fox News that the Yemeni-American national apparently lied on his visa application to attend Colorado State University, where he studied engineering. Rather than tell U.S. immigration officials that he was born in Las Cruces, N.M., in 1971, Awlaki stated that the was foreign born, the security agent, Ray Fournier, said.
Awlaki received $20,000 in scholarship money from a U.S. government program for his schooling in Fort Collins, Colo. When asked if Awlaki was eligible, Fournier said, “No, he is absolutely forbidden to have it.””

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/12/radical-muslim-cleric-lied-qualify-funded-college-scholarship/


206 posted on 03/22/2011 9:00:47 AM PDT by PwrPencil
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To: curiosity

“I have yet to see a single birther identify a single scholarship that was available to Indonesian citizens but not US citizens at Occidental.”

Easier to get financial aid NOW, but how about in 1980.

But to answer your question, Fulbright offered scholarships for Non-US Nationals.

http://www.cies.org/vs_scholars/vs_awards/

This page shows Indonesia...also shows Pakistan, which is where Ann Dunham was living as a FOREIGN NATIONAL during his Occidental years.


210 posted on 03/22/2011 11:11:09 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: curiosity

“I have yet to see a single birther identify a single scholarship that was available to Indonesian citizens but not US citizens at Occidental.”

Easier to get financial aid NOW, but how about in 1980.

But to answer your question, Fulbright offered scholarships for Non-US Nationals.

http://www.cies.org/vs_scholars/vs_awards/

This page shows Indonesia...also shows Pakistan, which is where Ann Dunham was living as a FOREIGN NATIONAL during his Occidental years.


211 posted on 03/22/2011 11:11:30 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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