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To: big bad easter bunny

Couple of random thoughts on this...

Why Trump? Why now?

Let’s start with Trump. Here is a guy with more money than he could possibly spend in a lifetime. He didn’t get that money by being dumb, marrying into it, or inheriting it. He has also very probably, in the course of his business, used private investigators before. They would be good ones. I would think it would be very likely that before he raised this issue, he would spend a few bucks to make sure he wasn’t sticking his willie in the meat grinder.

Now think about this. Despite his noises about looking at the Republican nomination, here is a guy who calls GWB “probably the worst president in history”, calls Kerry “a good friend” and has been buddy-buddy with the Clintons for a long time. Hell, put “The Donald” next to “Big Bubba” and you have two peas from the same pod.

So what is actually going on? I think that Hillary is planning to jump ship soon — possibly even “in protest” against Obama’s handling of the Libya mess — to position herself for a White House run. I also think that Hillary has the goods on Obama, has had them for years, and has been waiting for the “right time” to use them. But whatever she does, she can’t be tied directly to their release. She needs a “cat’s paw”.

Which brings us to the “Why now?”

Obama is seen, almost universally, as weak and ineffective. It’s the starting gate for the 2012 campaign season. If Hillary is going to make a move, she has to do it soon. Say she passes what she has to Trump, who confirms it through his own sources, and then start the ball rolling.

The real issue may not even be in the birth certificate itself. My gut feeling there is that the information he is hiding on his BC will be embarrassing, but not disqualifying. But it’s probably going to be the issue that cracks the wall of secrecy that has been carefully maintained around Obama.

Once it breaks, you can expect a lot of other stuff to start trickling out. None of those leaks will be devastating individually, but the overall affect, over time will be to totally destroy his credibility with EVERYONE.

Anyone think Hillary is not ruthless enough to play that level of hardball?


23 posted on 03/30/2011 4:24:59 PM PDT by Ronin (Tokyo Hot -- Looking forward to saving money on night lights!!!)
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To: Ronin

Hillary and Obama were in the same progressive kettle as Soros and other international enablers. Hillary couldn’t speak out,neither could Bill because of the same cabal that told Hillary to shut up or else,you have had your turn. Or else being personal scandal, money support, or even something more deadly. These folks don’t play just into sorry excuses. Now your possibility of Trump with his wealth and connections gives Hillary the chance to break free with protection. Could be that is the stage setting. However, Trump has made some very strong statements about what has been going on and remedies.As such it is difficult for me to accept the scenario noted because Hillary and Bill don’t fit, especially as to China.


25 posted on 03/30/2011 4:56:36 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Ronin

Hillary and Obama were in the same progressive kettle as Soros and other international enablers. Hillary couldn’t speak out,neither could Bill because of the same cabal that told Hillary to shut up or else,you have had your turn. Or else being personal scandal, money support, or even something more deadly. These folks don’t play just into sorry excuses. Now your possibility of Trump with his wealth and connections gives Hillary the chance to break free with protection. Could be that is the stage setting. However, Trump has made some very strong statements about what has been going on and remedies.As such it is difficult for me to accept the scenario noted because Hillary and Bill don’t fit, especially as to China.


26 posted on 03/30/2011 4:56:56 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Ronin
"Anyone think Hillary is not ruthless enough to play that level of hardball?"

My only problem with your theory is that Hillary (and Bill) have a long documented record of using the same type of PIs that you suggest Trump has access to. I just can't see her not having the goods on Obama in the 2008 campaign and not using them. Perhaps that's what she tried to do with Berg (a known Hillary supporter) and just didn't get any traction.

Apart from that, I do agree with you that Trump does have an ulterior motive which may or may not be linked to HRC.

35 posted on 03/31/2011 6:04:04 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Ronin

Hillary has been too much on the front of this Libya situation to be able to protest Obama’s handling of it, unless it’s to say that he has been dragging his feet - but the big issue is that he DIDN’T take the time to get Congressional authorization or find out who the rebels even are.

Hillary’s deadpan responses of “No” to every question of whether she would be interested in this or that political office would make a liar out of her if she ran for anything.

I think it is true that if Hillary was to have any chance of anything she would first have to so damage Obama that Soros gave up on him, but that would take a lot, IMHO, simply because Obama has the Islamists in his corner and that adds a lot of money to the war chest. Probably enough that Soros can threaten to make a run on the bank that would make the Sept 2008 run pale by comparison - which is what I believe Soros has been using as the threat to get all the judges and media (up until now) to give Obama a pass.

There is a crack in the media facade, though, because Sean Hannity doesn’t appear to be backing down. And if the 9th Circuit Appeals Court isn’t just monkeying around with Orly, there could be a break in the judicial facade as well. It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out.

The breaks in those facades have come as Soros is making an OPEN (though not widely reported) move to try to change up the whole economic world by decree rather than necessarily by a run on the bank - possibly because the former union guy (I forget his name) was caught on tape urging a run on Bank of America as the unions’ way to deal with their fading power. A run on the bank has been exposed as the leftists’ economic terrorism, so maybe Soros thinks that route won’t work again.


37 posted on 03/31/2011 6:42:25 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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