Posted on 05/03/2011 6:11:14 PM PDT by marktwain
PHOENIX The sponsor of laws to broaden the right to carry guns in Arizona lashed out Monday at Gov. Jan Brewer for vetoing them.
Sen. Ron Gould, R-Lake Havasu City, said he did not believe the governor's claims that the measures were flawed and had to be rejected. He said she was just looking for cover, trying to find any excuse at all to veto them.
But the governor said Monday there were legitimate reasons for her actions. She said both were badly crafted.
Brewer, however, refused to commit to signing a version of the measures that was clearer.
One bill would have permitted people to carry guns on the public rights of way through the campuses of community colleges and state universities. And just last Friday Brewer rejected another measure which would have said people could bring their weapons into public buildings unless entrances have metal detectors and security guards.
On the guns on campus bill she sided with education bureaucrats and their irrational fear of guns, he said. And Gould said the governor sided with government over the people on weapons in public buildings.
Brewer denied that's the case.
I thought they were not written properly, the governor said.
Some of them, of course, conflicted with federal law, Brewer continued. And they were so ambiguous that people would actually never really, really know where they could and couldn't carry weapons.
Gould wasn't buying it.
A lot of times, if you don't agree with the policy, you bad-mouth the bill so that you create wiggle room for yourself so you theoretically don't take a hit for killing something that the conservative base supports, he said.
Brewer said that's not the case.
You know, I'm a big proponent of the Second Amendment, she said. And she did sign legislation last year making Arizona only the third state in the country, after Alaska and Vermont, to allow anyone to carry a concealed weapon, with or without training or a background check.
She can try to spin it any way she wants to spin it, Gould said.
And she can claim that she's a conservative and she can claim that she supports gun rights, he said. But she didn't support gun rights last week.
Despite her argument that drafting problems were the only issues she had with the legislation letting guns in buildings, the governor sidestepped questions about what she would do with a future and presumably better-crafted measure.
That's somewhat of a hypothetical question, she said. I will comment on bills when they arrive on my desk.
Someone must have found her price!
I think she was right in vetoing the measure, allowing guns on campus is stupid, those people cannot drink a beer responsibly how in the world can they handle a weapon.
This is the second time Brewer dropped the ball.
Time to consider a RECALL of this dotty old battle-axe, Arizona!
Imagine how quickly the carnage at VA Tech could have been halted if students could carry.
“Gun-Free Zones” - just another name for “Full Of Unarmed Victims”.
I think someone got to her or her family! Things are just not right with what is happening now... Doesn’t it seem a bit fishy?
I’ve been waiting for Donald Trump to back down too.... When that happens, I think we should all be worried!
What is wrong with this Governor?
This is always her excuse when she's voted Republican legislation (i.e. Birth C Cert requirement).
Doesn't she 'work' with the legislative side to make sure there's agreement on the 'wording' before it gets to her desk? She is turning out to be a 'baffoon".
What is wrong with this Governor?
This is always her excuse when she's vote vetoed Republican legislation (i.e. Birth C Cert requirement).
Doesn't she 'work' with the legislative side to make sure there's agreement on the 'wording' before it gets to her desk? She is turning out to be a 'baffoon".
I don’t reckon I’ve got enough sense to back down!
She has aspirations to be a senator. she’s making political calculations.
I'm sure her backing of Big Education ties into her anti-gun on campus stance.
That said, we could have done a lot worse than her. Remember her predecessor was ultimate FemiNazi and all-around idiot tool Janet Nappy.
Brewer won’t answer hypotheticals but vetoed bill bases on a hypothetical.
Typical politician.
Brewer won’t answer hypotheticals but vetoed bill bases on a hypothetical.
Typical politician.
She has aspirations to be a senator. she’s making political calculations.
Because one intent upon perpetrating harm in a gun free zone isn't going to be dissuaded by laws. Duh.
You're on the wrong side of this issue, bozo.
Ive been waiting for Donald Trump to back down too.... When that happens, I think we should all be worried!
Someone is getting to a lot of people. Like I said in another post a while ago, look for the marks on the back of their necks like in the old sci-fi film Invaders From Mars.
Brewer has earned a good deal more respect than your remark delivers. Unless you know what is behind this governor’s hesitation a little lingering loyalty wouldn’t be out of the question. We will know over time, but she has NOT been bought off. Under threat, maybe. But not bought off.
Good people can reasonably disagree about guns on campus for
all the OBVIOUS reasons. We may be for it, but that doesn’t mean Brewer has to eat out of our hand, and this is actually
not the biggest problem Arizona has.
While I haven't read this specific bill, MOST campus carry bills that I have seen apply to those who have a conceal carry permit (or qualify for one) which also means only those who are 21 or older (and thus eligible to drink a beerr).
What I have heard about this bill is that it was not clear enough about what school areas were permissable and which were not, and could thus lead to folks violating the law when they thought they were complying with it.
“What I have heard about this bill is that it was not clear enough about what school areas were permissable and which were not, and could thus lead to folks violating the law when they thought they were complying with it.”
I don’t think it’s going to do you any good to try to reason w with the all too frequent fly off the handle hothead posters that would not think twice about stabbing their best friend in the back if they disagreed with them about anything.
Detailed information has not been presented that shows conclusively whether she was wrong or right about her reasoning for the veto, but the cheap shots against a lady that has the fortitude to stand up against Obummer is uncalled for and the insinuation that she was bought off is characteristic of libtard comments.
LOL! That’s funny right there.
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