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To: Grunthor
Bullcrap indeed. If you think defunding Israel wouldn't result in an muslim onslaught to rid her from the ME you are sorely mistaken. And when that occurred we would be spending billions upon billions in yet another costly war.

Nice angle throwing in the comment about the vets, though. Too bad for you I've been part of many campaigns and am acutely aware of how such rhetoric is used to try to influence the mind of an audience. Usually, it's talk about kids, schools, police and fire. The vet angle was a nice change, though. I'm all for funding vets and do so both voluntarily and involuntarily. What I don't want is yet another costly war, one that would surely take place should we follow RuPaul's lead and abandon Israel.

27 posted on 05/12/2011 5:46:38 PM PDT by South40 (Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: South40

You know what, the only one bringing up Israel is you. I am saying stop sending money that we do not have overseas. To ANYONE. You are whining about Israel, an ally that has proven time and again possesses more than enough ability to defend herself.

Why would we be spending money in a war? Did we get involved in a long, protracted war in the Sinai in ‘67? No? Why is that? Could it be because the Israeli military is the baddest of asses on the planet and can more than take care of themselves in a fight?

Why do you feel the need to treat our ally as if it possesses neither the ability nor the will to defend itself?


30 posted on 05/12/2011 5:56:39 PM PDT by Grunthor (The nomination of Herman Cain takes more than half the ammo away from the race hustlers)
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To: South40
Bullcrap indeed. If you think defunding Israel wouldn't result in an muslim onslaught to rid her from the ME you are sorely mistaken. And when that occurred we would be spending billions upon billions in yet another costly war.

Paulbots use the "end foreign aid" demagoguery as a populist way of pushing their isolationist agenda. It's very much like the Democrats current push to "end oil company subsidies" to effectively raise taxes and spend more money on social welfare programs. There are arguments we can have about both those things, but we know the real agenda. They aren't fooling anyone.

And again, this highlights why Paul is running in the wrong party. As a conservative I am all FOR foreign aid to Israel (and others when it is used effectively). I believe as you do (and most conservatives) that Israel is a bastion of Western decency in a part of the world that is otherwise a backward cesspool. Israel is the tip of the spear helping to hold back Islamic radicalism, and as such I can never support cutting off foreign aid.

33 posted on 05/12/2011 6:01:05 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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