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SWC: Israel Should Reject a Return to 1967 'Auschwitz' Borders
The Simon Wiesenthal Center ^ | staff

Posted on 05/19/2011 11:41:42 AM PDT by Nachum

The Simon Wiesenthal Center commended President Obama's call for further democratization in the Arab world but expressed deep disappointment that he called for Israel's return to the pre-June 1967 borders.

"We welcome the President's recognition of Israel's security needs and that Hamas cannot be a partner in the peace process, but a call to a return to 1967 borders as the basis for negotiations, even with 'land swaps' is a non-starter, when at least half of the Palestinian rulers are committed to Israel's destruction," said Rabbis Marvin Hier and Abraham Cooper, founder and dean, and associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

"The road to peace has been clear for a long time - direct negotiations between parties who recognize each other's legitimacy,” they concluded.


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1967borders; arabspring; deathlines; holocaustborders; israel; obama; reject; should; simonwiesenthal; swc

1 posted on 05/19/2011 11:41:45 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Mooselimbs won’t be happy until Israel goes back to its pre-5,000 B.C. borders.


2 posted on 05/19/2011 11:47:58 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: Nachum

Hier, the SWC, and the “Museum of Tolerance” (would Yehoshu`a Bin Nun even know what that meant?) are a collective disgrace. They are a big reason we are in this mess.


3 posted on 05/19/2011 11:53:14 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

So who says Israel has to do what Barry says?


4 posted on 05/19/2011 12:18:23 PM PDT by freebird5850 (Of course Obama loves his country...it's just that Sarah Palin loves mine!)
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To: freebird5850
So who says Israel has to do what Barry says?

My remark was aimed at the loopy liberal Simon Wiesenthal Center crowd and had nothing to do with either Barry or Israel.

5 posted on 05/19/2011 12:20:51 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Sorry about that then. I was just saying who should obey anything this fool in the WH says. I’ll be more careful as to whose comment I reply to. It was not intended.


6 posted on 05/19/2011 12:41:49 PM PDT by freebird5850 (Of course Obama loves his country...it's just that Sarah Palin loves mine!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks Nachum. Gotta hand it to Obama -- he's taking a big hairy dump on one of his surest constituencies, knowing that they don't have enough votes to shift (even at 100%) to swing a single state. Not even NY.
"We welcome the President's recognition of Israel's security needs and that Hamas cannot be a partner in the peace process, but a call to a return to 1967 borders as the basis for negotiations, even with 'land swaps' is a non-starter, when at least half of the Palestinian rulers are committed to Israel's destruction," said Rabbis Marvin Hier and Abraham Cooper, founder and dean, and associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

7 posted on 05/19/2011 4:38:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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Wow, too many threads to keep up with so I’ll include this on a few of them and maybe comment on a few.

The teleprompter was working, he didn’t screw up, but the speech failed. Not so much because of the words, but the man behind them.

I know lots of Freepers won’t want to hear this, but he didn’t say much that GWB didn’t say. GWB talked about facts on the ground, and 1949 (worse than 67) borders, BHO said The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states. . Pretty much the same thing. It should satisfy Obama supporters in the context of supporting Israel, but what’s different is the man. GWB made a lot of mistakes in the context of this conflict, the importance of which is exaggerated. Hamas is where they are because of GWB ‘s insistence on “democracy”. A phrase Hussein has borrowed, big time. He’s becoming the new Bush, in words, actions, a failure. And Condi, she viewed Israel as the Jim Crow of her childhood.

I’m a bit surprised at the extent negative reaction, though I could have told the teleprompter writers to stay away from the 1967 borders phraseology. Unless the intent was to incite the Muslim world. But even the Arab street doesn’t seem to believe him. The fool may have been too clever by a half.

At the core is the fact that no one believes Barry’s words about Israel’s need for security. Heck, most of us don’t believe his words about the security of our borders.

The good news, an adult will be addressing Congress tomorrow.

When Bibi meets with Barry, wonder if he’ll brag to Bibi how he killed bin Laden.

8 posted on 05/19/2011 5:43:35 PM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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As far as the GWB administration's positions on the Israel-Pali conflict are concerned, perhaps you are neglecting further remarks that W made to then PM Sharon in 2004 which sound far different than just "1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps." Rush Limbaugh quoted from an open letter from 2004 from Bush to Sharon today, in which Bush does not hold Israel in any way to those 1967 borders and recognizes that it would be foolish to expect the final negotiated borders to resemble those in 1967 because of the realities on the ground.

Another phrase in the Obama speech that has gone underreported is the "contiguous" Palestinian state. Obviously, you can't connect the West Bank to Gaza and form a contiguous Pali state without a corridor through (pre-1967) Israel, which would cause all kinds of legitimate security threats to the Israelis.

9 posted on 05/20/2011 5:24:39 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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