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To: af_vet_rr; RegulatorCountry
The problem in the colonies was that the slave owners not only gained power over the lives of human beings, they were able to gain political power that they should never have had access to.

You were there? You know that for a fact?

You really can't view history accurately from the perspective of one's own armchair, y'know.

If Roger Sherman, et al shared your view, there would be no union today.

161 posted on 06/05/2011 9:19:15 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01

I particularly like the part about not allowing access to political power to this or that group of people, based upon his own version of political correctness.

The indoctrination just runs too deep sometimes, even on FR. It’s been a very disappointing evening.

Good night.


163 posted on 06/05/2011 9:25:34 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: okie01
You were there? You know that for a fact?

Your link about George Mason quotes Mason as describing slave owners as "petty tyrants" and your link about George Mason describes how slavery will bring the judgement of Heaven upon a country, and your link about George Mason describes his view that slavery is the worst thing to happen to this country.

Finally, your link about George Mason mentions how the southern colonies were able to wheel and deal their way into gaining enough political influence and power than they should have had to carry out their desires:

The const[itutio]n as agreed to till a fortnight before the convention rose was such a one as [Mason] w[oul]d have set his hand & heart to....With respect to the import[atio]n of slaves it was left to Congress. This disturbed the 2 Southernmost states who knew that Congress would immediately suppress the import[atio]n of slaves. Those 2 states therefore struck up a bargain with the 3 N. Engl[an]d states, if they would join to admit slaves for some years, the 2 Southernmost states w[oul]d join in changing the clause which required 2/3 of the legislature in any vote. It was done. These articles were changed accordingly, & from that moment the two S[outhern]. states and the 3 Northern ones joined Pen[nsylvania]. Jers[ey]. & Del[aware]. & made the majority 8. to 3. against us instead of 8. to 3. for us as it had been thro' the whole convention. Under this coalition the great principles of the Const[itutio]n were changed in the last days of the Convention.[8]


167 posted on 06/05/2011 9:43:00 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: okie01

Sorry, it was RegulatorCountry’s link about George Mason that described all of the problems created by slaves, how it corrupted men, and how it would ultimately lead to ruin. But you were mentioning George Mason, so you might find it useful.


169 posted on 06/05/2011 10:04:01 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: okie01
The problem in the colonies was that the slave owners not only gained power over the lives of human beings, they were able to gain political power that they should never have had access to.

Do Jefferson and Washington get a waiver from af vet?

197 posted on 06/11/2011 6:23:17 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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