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Guess what's the average San Francisco city pension? [ It's 2x the average wage in SF ]
San Franciso Chronicle ^ | June 20 2011 | SF Chronicle

Posted on 06/20/2011 11:43:01 AM PDT by NoLibZone

Here's some fun facts. OK, maybe not so fun depending on your perspective.

The average retiree from San Francisco city government earns an annual pension of $46,272, according to the San Francisco Employees' Retirement System. The average retiree who worked at least 30 years in city government earns an annual pension of $76,981.

The average pension for a retiree from the fire department is $108,552. From the police department? $95,016. And everybody else? $41,136.

The figures show most retirees aren't getting anywhere near the fat packages that outrage many city residents - like the $264,000 pension paid to former Police Chief Heather Fong last year.

But city retirees are doing pretty well compared to working San Franciscans. Census data shows the median family income in the city is $86,546. Per capita income is $44,373.

Public Defender Jeff Adachi is gathering signatures to place a measure on the November ballot that would require city workers to pay far more of their salaries toward pensions. Currently, most pay 7.5 percent of their paychecks, but some highly-paid employees would pay double that in bad economic years under Adachi's plan.

"I think it's interesting that the average pension paid to a city employee is higher than the average earnings of most San Franciscans," he said. "When you start looking at the total cost of these pensions, it's through the roof."

Larry Bradshaw, vice president of Service Employees International Union Local 1021, said the averages are skewed by highly paid workers and "your meat and potatoes city worker" like janitors and clerks earn pensions not much higher than $20,000.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/cityinsider/detail?entry_id=91113#ixzz1PqHlIP00

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: broke; capensions; debt; kalifornia; nomenklatura; pension; pensions; public; seiu; spending; taxes; unions

1 posted on 06/20/2011 11:43:08 AM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

No wonder Monk retired.


2 posted on 06/20/2011 11:45:34 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: NoLibZone

Eurofrisco is their own little Greece.


3 posted on 06/20/2011 11:46:02 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: NoLibZone

Around 2008 the Police Chief of the SF General HOSPITAL was paid A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS —for wages and overtime in ONE YEAR.

His beat is only one hospital.


4 posted on 06/20/2011 11:47:00 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: NoLibZone

“Work harder, slaves! Millions of govt ‘workers’ are depending on your taxes!”


5 posted on 06/20/2011 11:49:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is in print and on Kindle.)
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To: NoLibZone

In an SF weekly (for restaurants and movies, mostly) I read the account of one HIV+ illegal from Guatemala whose service animal was an IGUANA.

The legal protections on the Iguana were so ferocious he could bring it on any bus, BART or restaurant even with no questions asked.

SF is chilly but the critters must remain cozy —so his heating bill (which YOU pay) is sky-high.

He also lives in Section 8 housing.

Nice, huh? Sounds like I made it all up, right?


6 posted on 06/20/2011 11:49:58 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Travis McGee

“Amerika’s nomenklatura”

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=528809

For those who remember the old Soviet Union, it was a grim place — at least for average citizens. But not so for those in government. Contrary to the official ideals of equality and a classless society that the ruling communist regime espoused, the USSR created a privileged class of party members inside government — the nomenklatura.

This semipermanent bureaucracy earned higher incomes, got better health care, ate better food and had greater job security than average Russians, the much-despised proletarians. Today, our bloated government seems, in significant ways, to be creating this same dynamic.


7 posted on 06/20/2011 11:51:03 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: NoLibZone
Simple math will be their downfall. This is all very obviously Madoff money. Look at Medicare -- you put in $150,000 over your lifetime, and you get to take out $450,000. Sustainable? I don't think so. You make more money not working than you do working? Well, that can't last forever.

Everyone says "Cut something, but don't cut my stuff! I deserve this! I paid in!"

Well ... it's all going away. The math is relentless.

8 posted on 06/20/2011 11:52:49 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: gaijin
His beat is only one hospital.

Yeah, but there are a lot of dead people in the morgue ... and I didn't hear of one outbreak of Zombies breaking loose from the Hospital and terrorizing the neighborhood.
Well done, SF General Hospital Police Chief!

9 posted on 06/20/2011 11:54:24 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: gaijin

I forgot to mention:

City employees can have the sex-change operation of their domestic partner (who it seems to me could be an illegal alien, as SF is a sanctuary city) paid for by the city.

In the Mission District the per capita incidence of TB is the same as Mexico. Do I need to say why?


10 posted on 06/20/2011 11:54:31 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Travis McGee
“Work harder, slaves! Millions of govt ‘workers’ are depending on your taxes!”

Private sector again is robbed and gang raped by government.

11 posted on 06/20/2011 11:58:18 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: NoLibZone
I always wondered why police in San Fransisco would stand around watching sexual acts (mostly oral sex) taking place right in front of them in San Fransisco while little children were walking past.
Now it makes sense they had their greedy pensions to think about over up holding the law and basic decency.

Money can and will buy anything

12 posted on 06/20/2011 12:05:54 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: gaijin

16 U.S. Cities That Could Face Bankruptcy in 2011

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2646712/posts
San Diego, Ca.
New York, NY
San Jose, Ca.
Cincinnati, Oh.
Honolulu, Hi.
San Francisco, Ca.
Los Angeles, Ca.
Washington, D.C.
Newark, NJ
Detroit, Mi
Reading, Pa
Joliet, Il
Camden, NJ
Hamtramck, Mi
Central Falls, RI
Paterson, N.J.
BONUS: Chicago, Il


13 posted on 06/20/2011 12:16:09 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: NoLibZone

The First 10 City Pensions That Will Run Out Of Money

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2647985/posts

#10 Fort Worth...Unfunded liability: $2 billion Unfunded liability per household: $7,212 Solvency horizon: 2023
#9 Detroit...Unfunded liability: $6.4 billion Unfunded liability per household: $18,643 Solvency horizon: 2023
#8 Baltimore...Unfunded liability: $3.7 billion Unfunded liability per household: $15,420 Solvency horizon: 2022
#7 New York City...Unfunded liability: $122.2 billion Unfunded liability per household: $38,886 Solvency horizon: 2021
#6 Jacksonville...Unfunded liability: $4 billion Unfunded liability per household: $12,994 Solvency horizon: 2020
#5 St. Paul...Unfunded liability: $1.4 billion Unfunded liability per household: $13,686 Solvency horizon: 2020
#4 Cincinnati...Unfunded liability: $2 billion Unfunded liability per household: $15,681 Solvency horizon: 2020
#3 Boston...Unfunded liability: $7.5 billion Unfunded liability per household: $30,901 Solvency horizon: 2019
#2 Chicago...Unfunded liability: $44.8 billion Unfunded liability per household: $41,966 Solvency horizon: 2019
#1 Philadelphia..Unfunded liability: $9 billion Unfunded liability per household: $16,690 Solvency horizon: 2015
1 posted on Monday, December 27, 2010 10:03:27 AM by FromLori

I don’t see Eurofrisco on the top 10- they must have more creative accountants than the rest.
I just see a bunch of cities run by leftards.


14 posted on 06/20/2011 12:24:53 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: NoLibZone

That’s what happens when you have a city of juvenile sex-crazed single people who don’t want and don’t care to build a family......

.....Damn the Tikes, full speed ahead!!


15 posted on 06/20/2011 1:01:56 PM PDT by cookcounty (Would someone PLEASE give the President a calculator for his birthday???)
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