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Time Magazine: Constitution Doesn't Limit Government, ObamaCare Constitutional
Newsbusters ^ | June 23, 2011 | Eric Ames

Posted on 06/24/2011 3:38:29 AM PDT by lowbridge

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To: SES1066

Hahaha...OMG.

How right you are. And how disturbing that is, to even consider that.

I am conflicted on how to consider Luce...I know at one point, he was a Patriot, but when I look at the bent of his kingdom, especially in the late Sixties into the Seventies, I can only imagine he was taking a hands-off approach to the content of his publications.


61 posted on 06/24/2011 6:35:37 AM PDT by rlmorel (Sometimes, the enemy of our enemy is our friend. But not always.)
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To: MrB
I’ve heard that, too, from liberals -

“how can you oppose the government? the government is us!”

And the wiseacre response almost writes itself.

62 posted on 06/24/2011 6:37:36 AM PDT by danielmryan
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To: lowbridge

The Church was an impediment to the gay and leftist agenda so they destroyed the church. The consitution is an impediment to their wish for complete government control so now they must destroy the constitution.


63 posted on 06/24/2011 6:46:27 AM PDT by Hacklehead (The tree of Liberty is very thirsty.)
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To: lowbridge

btt


64 posted on 06/24/2011 7:07:29 AM PDT by GailA (NO DEMOCRATS, NO RINOS in 2012!)
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To: Texas resident

somewhere in the USA, there is a judge looking at this going duuuuuuhhhhh ok.


65 posted on 06/24/2011 7:27:31 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: lowbridge

Where was Stengel when the leftist hordes descended on Washington week after week during the height of the Iraq War protesting that Bush was violating the then beloved constitution? Then the document mattered. Now that they have their favorite leftist in power, who needs a stinkin’ constitution? Just let Obama do whatever he wants, and the leftist federal judges will fill in the rest.


66 posted on 06/24/2011 7:27:41 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: lowbridge

Richard Stengel writes: “If the Constitution was intended to limit the federal government, it sure doesn’t say so.”

Yes, it does. The Tenth Amendment says: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

Even before the adoption of the Bill of Rights, James Madison explained the original understanding of the document in Federalist 45: “The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite.”

So, Richard, are you ignorant, stupid, or a liar? Or perhaps more than one. Whatever. Time editors should have known better. Probably they did, but hey, ever time Time stoops to a new low that doesn’t seem possible, they do it again next week and stoop even lower than the winner of the Jamaican national limbo contest.

But no matter, with circulation sinking faster than the Titanic, in a couple of years no one’s going to care what the digital remnants of Time are honking about anyway. After all, at that point the Time website will be just one of honking billions.


67 posted on 06/24/2011 7:47:11 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the right stuff!)
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To: Lazamataz

Time mag is just as ignorant of history as they are on the Constitution.
They may be hoping to be the official barak media outlet, but dictators purge those that got them there.
Stalin purged the media and all the top level generals in the soviet military. Their thinking is that the ones who helped him to overthrow the system could overthow them as well.
It is sick and sad to watch Americans in the media business openly work toward their own destruction.


68 posted on 06/24/2011 7:58:38 AM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Travis McGee

Even odder is the fact that before becoming editor at Time, Rick Stengel was head of the National Constitution Center and Museum on Independence Mall in Philadelphia.


69 posted on 06/24/2011 8:21:18 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: lowbridge

The Stengels (spell?) of the world are running your country.

Thanks for not caring. :)


70 posted on 06/24/2011 8:31:59 AM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: lowbridge

Glenn Beck posits the question: “Can Man Rule Himself?”

If the left think that Man cannot rule himself, then how can they endorse Men ruling over other men?

This seems to be a paradox on the left.

If Man is not qualified to rule himself then isn’t man also equally unqualified to rule over others, be those men Kings, Dictators, or even Saints?

All the apparatus of government consists of men, but if the left is correct in their assertion that man cannot rule himself then should their goal be to minimize the sins of men ruling over other men?


71 posted on 06/24/2011 8:44:08 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Covenantor

The LSM just keeps handing us ammo!”

To do what,complain some more? Each time, they go further, we sit around, raising our voices, but doing nothing. As the saying goes “talk is cheap”. I don’t know the answer, sue them, burn them down, or try to think what our founding fathers would do. Pick one advertiser, and boycott them? As conservatives, we draw our line in the sand, and are betrayed by our leaders, and required to draw another line again and again. Folks, we now have our line in front of us, the cliff at our back. Maybe this doesn’t make sense to any of you, writing this is hard because of rage boiling over of one thing after another, every day, and feeling powerless to do anything about it. With 22 years in the Marines, we knew our enemy and set out to destroy them, Now with my 75 years on this planet, I feel powerless. My oath to defend the Constitution still guides me. Semper Fidelis


72 posted on 06/24/2011 9:15:11 AM PDT by gunner03
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To: lowbridge

I didn’t realize Time magazine was still around.


73 posted on 06/24/2011 9:20:17 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: LRS

That is a short-quote from Federalist #84. The full context is:

“I go further, and affirm that bills of rights, in the sense and to the extent in which they are contended for, are not only unnecessary in the proposed Constitution, but would even be dangerous. They would contain various exceptions to powers not granted; and, on this very account, would afford a colorable pretext to claim more than were granted. For why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do? Why, for instance, should it be said that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained, when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed? I will not contend that such a provision would confer a regulating power; but it is evident that it would furnish, to men disposed to usurp, a plausible pretense for claiming that power.”

Hamilton was arguing against the necessity of adding the Bill of Rights. He did so BECAUSE he foresaw what usurpers would do if given the hooks to turn the BoR amendments on their ears.


74 posted on 06/24/2011 9:20:43 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Lazamataz

The presstitutes won’t survive the third volley Laz....

Come on January 2013. ....


75 posted on 06/24/2011 9:52:46 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: MissMack99
I did not care for the tone or content of your FReepmail. If you have something to say, have the guts to say it in an open forum. I will say this... it is inappropriate to ask for a person's real name and address, so no more FReepmails.

And you once again ducked my question on the Commerce Clause. Care to reconcile your two contradictory positions?

76 posted on 06/24/2011 10:06:34 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: lowbridge

77 posted on 06/24/2011 10:43:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: GraceG
If the left think that Man cannot rule himself, then how can they endorse Men ruling over other men?

This seems to be a paradox on the left.


"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
78 posted on 06/24/2011 10:55:06 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: lowbridge

There was a time when these people wouldn’t be heard from again.


79 posted on 06/24/2011 11:00:01 AM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: samtheman

LOL I see what you did there.


80 posted on 06/24/2011 11:09:27 AM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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