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To: Sonny M

Rove is a two-faced, double-dealing, backstabbing, manipulative, disingenuous political hack.

The Rove connection

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/06/us/politics/06perry.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

The relationship between the camps includes a rich mix of political differences, class distinctions, loyalty questions and perceived slights of campaigns past. And it is a uniquely Texas story, opening in the Western dust bowl where both emerged — Mr. Perry as a conservative Democratic state lawmaker from a modest farming family and Mr. Bush as a failed Republican Congressional candidate of famous New England stock.

In 1989, Mr. Rove, already a powerful Texas political consultant, helped persuade Mr. Perry to join the Republican Party and run for agriculture commissioner.

Mr. Rove was heavily invested in Mr. Perry’s victory as lieutenant governor in 1998, and helped recruit Mr. Carney to run Mr. Perry’s campaign while he ran Mr. Bush’s. The tensions first spilled out publicly in 2007, when a video wound up on YouTube capturing Mr. Perry speaking dismissively of Mr. Bush at a Republican house party in Iowa for former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani of New York. In the video, Mr. Perry said, “George Bush was never a fiscal conservative — never was,” adding, “I mean, ’95, ’97, ’99, George Bush was spending money.”


5 posted on 07/06/2011 1:33:48 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Sarah Palin is the mirror by which evil reflects back upon itself until consumed out of existence)
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To: MestaMachine
Mr. Rove was heavily invested in Mr. Perry’s victory as lieutenant governor in 1998, and helped recruit Mr. Carney to run Mr. Perry’s campaign while he ran Mr. Bush’s. The tensions first spilled out publicly in 2007, when a video wound up on YouTube capturing Mr. Perry speaking dismissively of Mr. Bush at a Republican house party in Iowa for former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani of New York. In the video, Mr. Perry said, “George Bush was never a fiscal conservative — never was,” adding, “I mean, ’95, ’97, ’99, George Bush was spending money.”

The Times did some short work on this, their relationship soured in 1998, when Perry ran. Rove was trying to get Bush more latino votes, which was good for Bush, and good for Perrys democratic opponent (Sharp ?). According to Carney, this strategy, would have helped Bush but cost Perry, at that point Perry went "rouge" and negative, and wound up winning a very close victory, but the 2 campaigns differed.

If you want to see some real hostility, look up what happened between them in 2000 when Bush became president, where Perry essentially wanted to kick Bush and his family out of the governors mansion ASAP, something which the Bush family did not take to kindly to.

Politics is like a soap opera, or pro-wrestling, todays friends, are tomorrows enemies, and todays enemies are tomorrows friends. Selective slicing and dicing can make anyone look one way or the other. In 2008, John McCain, over the objections of Karl Rove (who was working for him), picked Sarah Palin (Rove wanted Romney). Someone can always spin that as, in 2008, Rove worked tirelessly to make Sarah Palin the vice president. Karl Rove worked for the McCain/Palin campaign. Its true, but its not really accurate. (I used that as an example, because MSNBC has often tried to tie Palin to Rove together, and if Palin runs, they will do it again).

7 posted on 07/06/2011 2:09:47 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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