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If Perry does mount presidential run, we'll see if his walk matches his talk
Lubbock Avalanche-Journal ^ | July 10, 2010 | Editorial

Posted on 07/10/2011 3:47:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

If Rick Perry does mount a successful bid for the U.S. presidency, it will be interesting to see whether he can translate his past and present criticisms of the federal government into concrete changes to the sprawling bureaucracy.

Perry has yet to say he will or won’t toss his hat into the Republican race for the right to square off against President Barack Obama in 2012. He is, however, making all the moves of a potential candidate testing the waters. Insiders are mixed on the odds. Some say he’s definitely in; others put the odds at 50-50.

But the mere possibility the longest-serving Texas governor will join a party battle featuring hopefuls who conservatives and the tea party are not particularly excited about has pundits of all stripes from coast to coast offering their views of how a Perry candidacy would play out.

Perry, who’s never lost an election, has a good chance of rising quickly to the frontrunner position against Mitt Romney, Michelle Bachman, Herman Cain, Tim Pawlenty, Newt Gingrich and Jon Huntsman. His unabashed conservative message puts him at or beyond Bachman’s position on the far right end of the political spectrum. His executive experience compares well to Romney, Pawlenty and Huntsman.

And, like him or not, there’s little denying Perry knows how to campaign, raise money and deliver rousing speeches.

While polls show Obama in danger of losing to a generic Republican candidate — and the prevailing wisdom in the punditry sphere is the 2012 race is the GOP’s to lose, there is a real question whether a candidate who energizes the conservative base can do so without having his or her far-right stances turn off center-right independents, pushing them into Obama’s column.

But should Perry manage to keep his perfect election record intact and find himself in the White House, we’ll find out whether his Washington walk matches his Texas talk.

Assuming the GOP holds its House majority and gains control of the Senate, we can imagine Perry’s to-do list starting with the repeal of Obamacare and ending with a full makeover of the Environmental Protection Agency. In between, he’d likely put a host of agencies to work shredding scores of regulations he’s railed against. He’d also likely push Congress to end or redesign a variety of federal programs he views as overreaches in violation of state rights laid out in the Tenth Amendment.

Perry’s real test would be border security. He’s decried the federal government’s failure to secure the border, but the problem has stymied presidents from both parties for decades. Perry might be able the change that, but the odds are he’d merely find himself transformed from the critic to the criticized.

While some pundits question whether voters will back another Texas governor so soon after George W. Bush’s divisive two terms at the helm, others see Perry as a different sort of conservative. Unlike “compassionate conservative” Bush, some see Perry as more like Ronald Reagan.

But unlike the easy-going, grandfatherly Gipper, Perry is more like the Texas A&M yell leader he once was.

“Our loudest opponents on the left are never going to like us, so let’s stop trying to curry favor with them,” he said in a recent speech.

We’ve agreed with Perry, and we’ve disagreed with him. He’s certainly not perfect, but no candidate is. But if sending Perry to Washington would balance the budget, address the debt and rein in over-regulation, it would be a welcome change from the current state of affairs.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 2012; amnesty; conservative; democrat; economy; energymandate; gardasil; gorescampaignmanager; openborders; perry; perry4gardasil; perry4openborders; perrybotshere; rickperry; rinoalert; rinoperry; ttc
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1 posted on 07/10/2011 3:47:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Never underestimate the abilities and righteous motivations of at least one million Americans to be far better presidents than the filthy, anti-american, degenerate pig we currently have in the WH. The Rats are masters at dividing opposition to the kenyan marxist and splitting the vote will ensure he wins again. You will not find the “perfect” candidate but you can easily find a million potential candidates who would do well for America compared to 4 more years of the destroyer of freedom and the future for our kids.


2 posted on 07/10/2011 4:08:34 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Neoliberalnot

AMEN!


3 posted on 07/10/2011 4:10:03 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Neoliberalnot

TURN OUT will be key.


4 posted on 07/10/2011 4:10:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Never underestimate the abilities and righteous motivations of at least one million Americans to be far better presidents than the filthy, anti-american, degenerate pig we currently have in the WH. The Rats are masters at dividing opposition to the kenyan marxist and splitting the vote will ensure he wins again. You will not find the “perfect” candidate but you can easily find a million potential candidates who would do well for America compared to 4 more years of the destroyer of freedom and the future for our kids.


5 posted on 07/10/2011 4:11:04 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Neoliberalnot

You can say that again.


6 posted on 07/10/2011 4:11:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; af_vet_rr; hocndoc; stevie_d_64
Posting articles from the Lubbock paper lauding your boy Rick at 5:47 a.m. on Sunday?

CW, there is no way you are not a campaign professional, carpeting FR with your guy's prolefeed at oh-dark-thirty in the morning.

7 posted on 07/10/2011 4:14:35 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
This editorial about Gov. Rick Perry and his run in the GOP primary and possible presidency, is balanced, unlike this contemptuous OpEd slap at Americans who would vote for Perry (that is currently making the MSM rounds).

America has a few loose screws

8 posted on 07/10/2011 4:24:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Good Morning, CW.

See you are pitching your favorite RINO, on FR.

Has he confronting either issue yet?
RINO Perry's intent was to
(1) reward his political allies inc. Chief of Staff and his Merck employer and
(2) to essentially shove an untested drug into the bodies of
his constituents’ pre-pubescent girls. Girls. So where was his
due diligence? Where was the informed consent?
Is there an iota of evidence that he did really care? Most importantly,
what would he do on a national level, if given the power.

Many on this forum are still waiting to hear Gov. Perry
begin to finally address this issue.

9 posted on 07/10/2011 4:25:49 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: lentulusgracchus
And btw. I am not a professional anything.

I'm always an early poster (I'm an early riser). Any more personal questions?

This was my first post today:

Somehow, the Unemployed Became Invisible (Yawn: powerless, low-skill, non-union "lame club")

10 posted on 07/10/2011 4:28:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Diogenesis; All
I'm not a mind reader but it strikes me that Gov. Rick Perry truly believed the HPV vaccine would have helped a lot of Texans who otherwise would not have gotten this protection against cervical cancer (it was to help with 3 strains of the human papilloma virus HPV).

Rick Perry's wife Anita Perry was a nurse for many years and still is involved in health care as First Lady of Texas, so I imagine health care is something this governor is more aware of than maybe your "average" governor and understood this to be a vaccine that would combat cervical cancer and cut heath care costs.

Then too Rick Perry grew up hard scrabble with little luxury as many have, yet vaccines traditionally have been made available to all.

Instead of applying the worst motives to Rick Perry, perhaps his critics could consider that his motives were good ones.

Another FReeper had some thoughts on this issue.

However, there are some here on FR who prefer to apply the worst motives to Rick Perry.

The most "vocal" either won't name a candidate they would support; say they would vote for Huntsman or Romney over Perry; say they would rather Obama stay in the White House than vote for Rick Perry.

The HPV vaccine was always Opt-Out. And according to this report had been changed to Opt-In, before being dropped entirely.

90 days after his EO, Gov. Rick Perry let stand legislation undoing the EO.

..Ann Hettinger, Concerned Women for America's state director of Texas, was instrumental in convincing Perry to change his proposal to an opt-in provision. When asked if Perry's original plans for the HPV vaccine would be an issue if he were to run for president, [Penny] Nance replied, “It would've been an issue IF HE HAD NOT FIXED IT.”

11 posted on 07/10/2011 4:29:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There is minimal "protection".

GARDASIL-GATE:

RINO Perry's
Chief of Staff worked for Merck
and, at the time, the Merck company was desperate for cash.
Solution: MANDATE GARDASIL BY EXECUTIVE ORDER.

RINO Perry rejected opponents' and Conservatives' calls to reverse
his mandate

There are >40 Types of HPV, 15 Types linked to cervical cancer.
Gardasil works against 4 Types and
does not grant full immunity to those 4 Types of HPV.
Gardasil offers no protection against the other
11 strains of HPV that have been linked to cervical cancer.

Sexually promiscuous women (not chaste girls)
require three shots over six months

CDC: 44% of teenagers received the HPV vaccine
but only 27% of them received all three requisite doses.
There is no evidence one does even works.

CDC: As of June 22, 2011, approximately 35 million doses of Gardasil
were distributed in the US. VAERS received a total
of 18,727 reports of adverse events; 68 deaths
.

12 posted on 07/10/2011 4:42:36 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Why did the RINO Perry write an Executive Order
for chaste girls to be given a presciption for
promiscuous women?

High risk genital papillomavirus infections are not spread vertically
Dillner J.1, *, 2; Andersson-Ellström A.3; Hagmar B.4; Schiller J.5
Reviews in Medical Virology, Volume 9, Number 1, March 1999 , pp. 23-29(7)
Abstract: ... The conclusions arrived at can be summarised as:
(1) There is overwhelming epidemiological evidence that
the only quantitatively important mode of transmission of infection
with oncogenic genital HPV types is sexual.

(2) There is also evidence that benign genital HPV types
can be transmitted sexually, but the epidemiological data
on the benign virus types are less extensive and less clear.
(3) Perinatal HPV transmission is unequivocally demonstrated
only for the rare disease juvenile respiratory papillomatosis.


13 posted on 07/10/2011 4:44:47 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Perry in or Perry out, who knows but based upon the following it will be interesting to see the reactions of some around here should Perry get in and win the nomination.
14 posted on 07/10/2011 4:44:53 AM PDT by deport
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To: Diogenesis
If all you've got against Perry is Gardasil and the Trans Texas Corridor, it's way past time to give it a rest. Both were mistakes. Neither mistake went anywhere. No harm no foul. Besides, the Gardasil “mandate” was tempered with an opt out.

Perry has been Governor for more than a decade. If Gardasil and the TTC are the only significant flaws in his record suggesting that he may not be sufficiently conservative, then he's as good as we're ever going to get and maybe better than we've ever had before. Even Reagan had his apostasies. He signed California's liberal abortion law, for example.

We need someone who rejects the progressive idea that government can perform miracles. Anyone who ever fell for the global warming scam or the “universal health care” delusion is a nonstarter because they don't have enough resistance to that idea. But if we turn up our nose at anyone who was ever involved in any government overreach we'll be caught in a Catch 22 — Only successful politicians can be serious presidential candidates but no successful politician can be pure enough to earn our support.

Perry isn't my beau ideal of a presidential candidate. He does however meet my minimum requirements which is more than I can say for anyone currently in the field. He'll do, Romney, Huntsman and Pawlenty won't. Bachmann, Cain and Santorum can't overcome Romney's head start and funding advantage. Perry may very well be conservatives’ only acceptable option.

Harping on the minor flaws in his record is counterproductive. Remember the timeless wisdom of the ancient enemy, LBJ — “Don't piss in the soup we all have to eat.”

15 posted on 07/10/2011 5:02:08 AM PDT by fluffdaddy (Who died and made the Supreme Court God?)
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To: fluffdaddy

Then let him simply address the issues
and demonstrate he is no longer a RINO (confer post #9).


16 posted on 07/10/2011 5:06:50 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: fluffdaddy
I'd like to address the "Trans Texas Corridor" and invite other comments.

When we were in Maryland it took the election of a lot of new people, along with a Republican governor to get the ICC (Inter County Connector) finished and a sealed deal. It's construction should be about complete.

For close to 50 years ENVIRONMENTALISTS fought tooth and nail and hammer and sickle but in the end they lost.

Below Gov. Perry and Roger Hedgecock discuss Texas' unsecured international border and the TTC "road."

June 29, 2011: Roger Hedgecock interview with Rick Perry (starts 1/2 way into audio file)

17 posted on 07/10/2011 5:20:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: deport
This guy in Montana has some thoughts about Rick Perry too deport.

July 2, 2011: Legal gamesmanship threatens our energy future (Montana looks to Rick Perry's TX model) “Texas Gov. Rick Perry is able to boast about job growth under his watch, noting that over 265,000 jobs, or nearly 37 percent of the jobs created nationwide since the summer of 2009, have been created in the Lone Star state.

He credits this growth to a few simple conditions: low taxes, a regulatory climate that is fair and predictable, and a legal system that limits frivolous lawsuits. According to the Wall Street Journal, nearly one-fourth of the 70 companies that left California this year relocated to Texas.

When new or relocating companies and investors survey the landscape and consider Montana, what do they see? Well, when it comes to natural-resource development, the landscape looks risky. ….”

18 posted on 07/10/2011 5:21:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“You can say that again.”

You are good, Cincinatus’ Wife! LOL!


19 posted on 07/10/2011 5:33:59 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: Diogenesis

My point was that your “issues” have been addressed with massive redundancy and were never substantial to begin with. Unless you have some fresh ground for suggesting that Perry is not an acceptable conservative candidate, it’s past time to sit down and hold your peace. When your argument has degenerated into a chant of “RINO, RINO, RINO,” it’s time to find another hobby.


20 posted on 07/10/2011 5:35:41 AM PDT by fluffdaddy (Who died and made the Supreme Court God?)
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