Posted on 07/25/2011 6:58:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
....I can't talk specifics about my time at the IRS, but here are some generalities. Those claiming EITC also qualify for other so-called refundable credits (how can something be refundable when nothing is paid in the first place?). The typical 1040 would show an income of between $12,000 to $18,000 for the year. It was usually accompanied by one W-2 with the income earned almost always by a female. With other refundable credits listed, a "refund" would be claimed of between $6,000 and $9,000.
And these people believe that is their money; they have a right to it. I fielded a telephone query from a woman who didn't even say hello, but blurted, "I haven't got my taxes." For an instant I thought she meant that she didn't have enough money to pay her taxes, but I quickly realized she was talking about her "refund." We newbies learned that those who pay taxes have a general fear of calling the IRS and tend to be nice on the telephone, while those who don't pay any taxes believe they are entitled and are not always pleasant to deal with. We also learned these aren't the brightest people on the planet with many signing their refund over to a tax-preparer and then claiming they didn't know they had done that. (The "instant refund" scam perpetrated by many storefront tax-preparers is a whole other story.)
...A golfing buddy said his girlfriend's daughter claims EITC among other things and received a U.S. government check for $6,000. She used the money to take her toddler daughter and the child's ne'er-do-well father to the Monterey Bay Aquarium -- a couple hundred bucks -- and spent the remainder for a giant tattoo on her back. I'm so glad I could help....
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Surely the US would never do so.
Actually, there is little basis for assuming they would not and factual evidence they would. Here are three good reasons to believe they would:.........."
Is this a too-fer one post? Your comment and the IRA article deserve their own thread if there isn’t one already.
I have noticed that EITC is the original “Cash for Clunkers” program. As mentioned in the article, the typical bastard child (original meaning) payment was between $3,000 and $6,000 or the price of a used car.
Reid and Pelosi want tax increases so much?
how about starting with this?
this should be blatantly unconstitutional.
and hiding it as a “refund” is despicible.
worse, millions of ILLEGAL immigrants are getting this,
paid by legal taxpayers.
Go for it. I have to take off in a bit.
We should all send this article to our Congresscritters and local tea party. Am doing this today.
I have mentioned that exact scenario to my accountant and a financial advisor and was scoffed at. Actually I think I phrased it as the govt deciding to impose a surcharge on anyone who has been “lucky” enough (that’s how Bambi sees wealth) to accumulate any net worth.
Like, they would say, “Hey, send us 4% of your net worth and we’ll be magnanimous and not freeze all of your accounts.”
The ruling class has skillfully clouded the notion of taxes. I have a simple plan:
1. Teach High School Seniors how to fill out a 1040-EZ
2. No more automatic withholding for anything - write a check at the end of the year.
3. Accompany EIC ‘refunds’ with a letter, explaining that it is really a ‘donation’.
No. 1 takes the mystery away, and helps dumb minds understand what taxes are...and prevents them from paying a few hundred bucks at H&R Block, with a refund anticipation loan tacked on.
No. 2 will let people ‘feel it’ alot more. People will really become more aware of what they pay. As a compromise, I would accept writing a monthly check to the government, for each program (IRS, Medicaid, Soc Security, etc.).
No. 3 would educate these morons working the register at the gas station - quit bragging to each other about how big your ‘refund’ is going to be, in front of people like me. Only 56% of people pay taxes...and I swear only 56% of the people in this country are aware of this fact. The other 44% still think they pay taxes...and evil politicians like Pelosi get them riled up - why do the rich get a tax break, when I don’t?
Make it October 31st, for several reasons, the main reason being that it would be within 2 weeks of election day.
I use a similar argument from liberals who say "we" need to help the poor. When I ask "Why?", they are appalled. My defense is that I am more than willing to help them learn a skill but I am unwilling to give them cash because they just fritter it away (as this article points out). Most do nothing to solve their economic problems. They simply want me to pay for their existence. I go on to tell them that, if they feel that way, add a few thousand extra dollars to your tax return if it makes you feel better, but don't ask me to chip in on programs I don't believe in.
my niece has several children, and her husband works hard, but the kids are all on medicaid....and they get the big check too....it makes me a little mad however when I hear she's running her cat to the vets.......how can you not have enough money for your family yet can afford taking an animal to the vet?....
It is actually worse than he describes. We have it going on in our extended family. Husband and wife..two kids. She works as waitress part time for cash. He works part time in kitchen. She gets SS disability..for minor chronic condition which doesn’t prevent her working. So they make enough to survive without help. They could make more, but she would loose SS if she did work more hours and declare it. This year they “got refund” of $9000.
All the illegals working for cash are doing something similar.
Worst of all, they also abuse the local nonprofit food pantries. One renter moved out and left behind an entire bedroom crammed literally full of food pantry items. Other renters have left behind multiple rooms of "voucher clothing" that was worn until it became dirty and then was discarded into a heap.
This really hurts me when I think about how hard I've worked for my income and how careful and frugal my wife and I are as we provide for our family. I'm really tired of carrying the deadwood on my back.
FROM LINK:”We generally knew that 47 percent of our population pays no income taxes whatsoever. However, we didn't know, and I suspect that very few of you know, how much of your tax money is actually given to non-taxpayers — in a lump sum, to do with as they please. Like most anti-poverty programs, the Earned Income Tax Credit when enacted in 1975 was supposed to be temporary. It was visualized as a tool to lift the working poor out of poverty. It was quickly made permanent and has been modified numerous times over the ensuing 36 years. In 2004, 20 million families received $36 billion. The flower children assume that was $36 billion spent on food, shelter, and health care. We who live in the real world know it was spent on big-screen television sets, 22-inch chrome wheels, and colorful tattoos. It was widely noted last week that those living below the poverty level in the U.S. tend to own cars, TVs, computers, cells phones, enjoy air-conditioning, and own video game consoles. The free money these folks receive from you and me is not counted for poverty level calculations. The typical 1040 would show an income of between $12,000 to $18,000 for the year. It was usually accompanied by one W-2 with the income earned almost always by a female. With other refundable credits listed, a “refund” would be claimed of between $6,000 and $9,000.
And these people believe that is their money; they have a right to it. I fielded a telephone query from a woman who didn't even say hello, but blurted, “I haven't got my taxes.” For an instant I thought she meant that she didn't have enough money to pay her taxes, but I quickly realized she was talking about her “refund.”
July 25, 2011 Among the Tax-takers
I have a family member who went to nursing school with a girl who was attending on the taxpayer dime. When she finished school, she decided she wouldn’t sit for her board exams because then the government would expect her to get a job.
The boy worked with a single mom (unmarried but baby daddy on the scene helping suck up bennies) who received a $6000 refund. My first thought was pay the rent and utilities up... she took her little “poverty stricken” family on a cruise.
Getting something for nothing appears to be the NEW American dream.
I’ve suggested to my libinlaw that if she and her fellow travelers feel so strongly about “helping the needy” that they should start a charity with that goal in mind.
The response was that “people wouldn’t give enough”.
Oh, so if they won’t give voluntarily, it’s OK to just take it, eh?
Responsible people often have to skip years to save up enough for the occasional modest vacation.
Those on the dole often take several lavish vacations a year.
Yeah, but we’re not in favor of tax hikes.
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