Fast and Furious: Enter the IRS and White House The scandal grows wider, and deeper.

Human Events ^ | 7/27/11 | John Hayward

[Nachum]

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) and his House Oversight committee did not waste any time getting down to business when their “Gun Walker” hearings resumed yesterday. Within a matter of hours, they had Special Agent in Charge William Newell, of the Phoenix ATF office, sizzling nicely on the Oversight hibachi, and this astonishing exchange occurred:

So now we’ve got the Internal Revenue Service, the Drug Enforcement Agency, and ICE connected with Operation Fast and Furious. We already know the FBI was involved, because some of their paid confidential informants starred in ATF’s favorite closed-circuit TV shows. Who’s left to implicate?

Ah, yes: the White House. Newell also testified that he discussed Operation Fast & Furious with his old friend, White House National Security Director for North America Kevin O’Reilly. According to CBS News, Issa’s committee got its hands on an email that began with the ominous words, “you didn’t get this from me.”

[Nachum]

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http://www.nachumlist.com/gunrunner.htm

[Terry Mross]

The question is when will these people be charged with lying to congress? They’ve been caught red handed. Or is Issa allowing them to “testify” without taking an oath to tell the truth?

[WKUHilltopper]

And yet...the major Congressional investigation is where, now?

[cripplecreek]

Issa is still building his case. Better to let the small and medium fish go and concentrate on the trophy.

[mo]

So...a good chunk of the entire regulatory apparatus has conspired with the Executive Branch to arm enemy south of the border...while our Legislative branch is doing its best to bring down the economic infrastructure?

the war being foisted upon us is completely new...and 21st century.

I have always said..Obama is a Trojan Horse..to take us down from within. It has been proven.

[Signalman]

This would be the opening story every night on the MSM...if the Pres. was a Republican.

[Liz]

NOTE This nails all of them.....0bama, Clinton, Incompetano, and Holder.

AG Holder discussed "Project Gun Runner" in April 2009 in Mexico.
FR POSTED Friday, July 08, 2011 by Glock The Vote
SOURCE: DOJ release | April 2, 2009

US Attorney General Eric Holder at the Mexico/United States Arms Trafficking Conference CUERNAVACA, MEXICO ~ Thursday, April 2, 2009 Remarks as prepared for delivery.

ATTY GEN HOLDER: First, let me express my thanks to (Mexican) Attorney General Medina Mora and Secy of Government Gomez Mont for making this conference possible. This is my first trip to another country as Attorney General.

I wanted to come to Mexico to deliver a single message: We stand shoulder-to-shoulder with you in this fight against the narcotics cartels. The United States shares responsibility for this problem and we will take responsibility by joining our Mexican counterparts in every step...

And, together, we will win – thanks in large part to the courage of my Mexican colleagues here today, who are on the front lines every day, and with whom I am proud to collaborate.

The topic that has been addressed over the past two days could not be more important – the development of an arms trafficking prosecution and enforcement strategy on both sides of the border.

I would like to thank the Mexican and U.S. experts who have worked so hard on this issue. On our side, Secretary Napolitano and I are committed to putting the resources in place to increase our attack on arms trafficking into Mexico.

Last week, our administration launched a major new effort to break the backs of the cartels. My department is committing 100 new ATF personnel to the Southwest border in the next 100 days to supplement our ongoing Project Gunrunner, DEA is adding 16 new positions on the border, as well as mobile enforcement teams, and the FBI is creating a new intelligence group focusing on kidnapping and extortion.

DHS is making similar commitments, as Secretary Napolitano will detail. But as today’s conference has emphasized, the problem of arms trafficking will not be stopped at the border alone. Rather, as our experts emphasized, this is a problem that must be met as part of a comprehensive attack against the cartels – an attack in depth, on both sides of the border, that focuses on the leadership and assets of the cartel.

This is the type of full-bore, prosecution-driven approach that the U.S. Department of Justice took to dismantle La Cosa Nostra – once the most powerful organized crime group operating in the United States. With partners like those we have here today, I am confident that together, we will defeat these narcotics cartels in exactly the same way. I am proud to stand with you, and to join you in this fight.

Thank you again for inviting me here. ####

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REFERENCE----WHAT IS THE MERIDA INITIATIVE? The US Congress passed legislation in late June 2008 to provide Mexico with $400 million and Central American countries with $65 million that year alone, for the specific purpose of "fighting drug wars." The initiative was announced 22 Oct 2007 and signed into law June 30, 2008.

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REFERENCE America's Third War: Is the U.S. Arming Mexican Cartels?
FoxNews.com | May 31, 2011 | William La Jeunesse
FR Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2011 by neverdem

If you ever watch video or look at pictures of Mexican drug wars, you see some pretty heavy weapons. It is a war being waged with rockets and plastic explosives, not pea shooters and Saturday Night Specials.

Consider these incidents:- A M26A2 fragmentation grenade used against a U.S. Consulate in Mexico in 2008 - Explosive projectiles and 21 grenades found during a raid in Guadalupe - An unexploded grenade and pull ring used to attack a TV station in Monterrey - Automatic weapons, including U.S.-made M16s, found at a cartel crime scene in May 2009- U.S. military-issued ammunition found in a cartel raid in Reynosa in November 2008. You can't buy this stuff at a U.S. gun store. So where do the cartels get it?

According to leaked diplomatic cables, there are three sources.

1. US Defense Department shipments to Latin America, known and tracked by the US State Department as "foreign military sales."

2. Weapons ordered by the Mexican government, tracked by the State Department as "direct commercial sales."

3. Aging, but plentiful arsenals of military weapon stores in Honduras, Guatemala and Nicaragua.

Even though these facts were well-known by the Obama administration, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Attorney General Eric Holder, it blamed much of the violence in Mexico on US gun shops. "More than 90% of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that line our border," President Obama said in February 2009.

That was contested, but few listened to gun store owners and former vets like Lynn Kartchner, owner of Allsafe Security, a gun shop in Douglas, Ariz...(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com

CHART PROVIDED BY FREEPER DR PIX

The above chart (of firearms seized in Mexico) shows Mexican cartels illegally acquired tens of thousands or firearms from either the Mexican Military or Central America, that are seized every year, according to more reliable source than the propaganda organs of the Obama Regime.

[unixfox]

So now we’ve got the Internal Revenue Service, the Drug Enforcement Agency, and ICE connected with Operation Fast and Furious.

EVERY DAMN ONE OF THESE AGENCIES SHOULD BE ABOLISHED, THE BUILDINGS SOLD AND THE EMPLOYEES SENT TO HELL!

[Free Vulcan]

Three points here come to mind:

- someone had to coordinate and brief all these agencies. Holder is the obvious target. C-span has him admitting to the F&F well over a year ago.

- that he was emailing a national security advisor implies to me things are even deeper than they appear and it needs to be pursued.

- as someone on another thread pointed out, the gangs paid top dollar for semi-autos when better quality full auto was available elsewhere. Why?

I am starting to think this goes deeper than just trying to create a crisis to push gun control. It has been suggested that Obama may have been arming the cartels for invasion into the U.S. I don’t rule that out anymore.

[reagandemocrat]

>>Issa’s committee got its hands on an email that began with the ominous words, “you didn’t get this from me.”...<<<

LOL. Let’s see that email.

[Osage Orange]

Congress is too busy going after MLB pitchers that “lied” to Congress.

[cripplecreek]

It has been suggested that Obama may have been arming the cartels for invasion into the U.S. I don’t rule that out anymore.

I haven't forgotten the weather underground plot for taking over America and their realization that they need help from outside. If you include the 30 million or so illegals wandering freely around the country it becomes frightening.

these 4 states have a population of about 30 million.

[AAABEST]

Ah, yes: the White House. Newell also testified that he discussed Operation Fast & Furious with his old friend, White House National Security Director for North America Kevin O’Reilly. According to CBS News, Issa’s committee got its hands on an email that began with the ominous words, “you didn’t get this from me.”

[reagandemocrat]

wow. Watch the powerful testimony of ATF Special Agent Carlos Canino.

His pain over learning of F&F is very moving.

[MHGinTN]

As Dan Burton pointed out yesterday to Newell, he was still under oath after the short potty break.

[70th Division]

Use them for chum!

[Ancesthntr]

So now we’ve got the Internal Revenue Service, the Drug Enforcement Agency, and ICE connected with Operation Fast and Furious. We already know the FBI was involved, because some of their paid confidential informants starred in ATF’s favorite closed-circuit TV shows. Who’s left to implicate?

Let's see - Department of the Treasury, Department of Homeland Security and the Justice Department. Those are 3 pretty important departments, wouldn't you say?

Who’s left to implicate? Here's a hint: the guy lives on the 3rd floor of the big, white building located at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington, D.C. Be careful, any attempt to gain entry will be resisted by a large, nasty, Big Mac-chomping Wookie.

[MHGinTN]

Scoff if you will, but Travis McGee posted the screen capture image of the email more than once here at FR yesterday. All you have to do is FR search freeper ‘Travis McGee’ and you will see in his posting history from yesterday the images.

[MHGinTN]

Here's a link to one of the posts