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California Democrats declare war on ballot measures
Sacramento Bee ^ | 8/4/11 | Dan Walters

Posted on 08/04/2011 4:52:20 PM PDT by SmithL

Do California Democrats want to eviscerate the initiative process, or merely smother it to death with a blanket of supposed reforms?

The party has almost complete control of state government and apparently doesn't want to contend with pesky ballot measures. So this year – the 100th anniversary of the initiative, the referendum and the recall – it has declared war.

Last weekend, the state Democratic executive board made it official, declaring that "the initiative process is being abused by the use of misleading titles and advertisements by unscrupulous signature-gathering companies, hired signature collectors, and concealed sponsors to create laws and programs that benefit a very few people at the expense of the many."

It called on the Legislature to put restrictions on the paid signature-gatherers whom business and conservative groups often use to qualify measures for the ballot.

A number of bills have surfaced in the Capitol this year – all in the name of "reform," of course – that would make it more difficult for conservative groups to qualify ballot measures while leaving the methods favored by unions and liberal groups intact.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ballot; goldenstate; initiatives; rats; referendum

1 posted on 08/04/2011 4:52:24 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

So, the truth is, the Democrats are all in favor of initiatives which support liberal causes, but oppose those which push a conservative idea.

If they had their way, they would make it easier to qualify initiatives pushing a liberal cause, and make it more difficult to do so with conservative oriented ideas.

Frankly, with liberals in control of the legislature and governor’s office, there’s not much worry about liberal laws not being enacted.

The legislature is controlled by Democrats. The governor and every constitutional officer of the state of California is a Democrat.


2 posted on 08/04/2011 5:02:53 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The governor and every constitutional officer of the state of California is a Democrat criminal traitor.

There. helped ya out a bit.

3 posted on 08/04/2011 5:10:29 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: SmithL

The Progressives have led California into moral and financial bankruptcy. Coming soon to America.


4 posted on 08/04/2011 5:34:36 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: SmithL

I have been hearing commercials on the radio that warn people not to sign petitions because of possible identity theft.


5 posted on 08/04/2011 5:38:02 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000
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To: SmithL

They are trying to pull that same B.S. here in Colorado.


6 posted on 08/04/2011 5:41:50 PM PDT by CORedneck
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Building trades union acknowledges ties to identity theft ads
7 posted on 08/04/2011 5:43:12 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000
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To: SmithL

Meh, Any initiative that passes in California the left doesn’t like gets shot down by the commie court so they have nothing to worry about.


8 posted on 08/04/2011 5:55:38 PM PDT by Boiling point (Cain / Palin 2012)
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To: Boiling point
Meh, Any initiative that passes in California the left doesn’t like gets shot down by the commie court so they have nothing to worry about.

That is not right. Some that the Left hates have survived repeated court challenges starting with Prop13. Others are the CA civil rights initiative. In the last election, the voters passed Prop 26 that requires a 2/3 vote for taxes that are disguised as fee increases.

Even the definition of marriage initiative Prop 8 is still in force. Whether it is eventually overturned depends on the whim of the most powerful man in America, Anthony Kennedy of the Supremes.
9 posted on 08/04/2011 6:12:04 PM PDT by fifedom
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To: SmithL

bump.


10 posted on 08/04/2011 6:20:56 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: SmithL

With a few exceptions, ballot initiatives in CA are primarily pushed by liberals. Those pushed by conservatives are often overturned by liberal judges. Why would Moonbeam want to defeat a tool used by the liberals to destroy this state (which is the desire of liberals)?


11 posted on 08/04/2011 7:21:39 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SmithL

These stupid commercials are everywhere. It’s insulting. The actors on the commercials are scared to death that our signatures and addresses will be sent to INDIA!!! Cruel, nasty India, who will do exactly WHAT with our addresses?? Send tiny nukes to blow each of us up?? Where is the Indian Defamation Board against this horrible slander?

What a joke.


12 posted on 08/04/2011 7:25:35 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: SmithL

He could really use a different photographer for his column.


13 posted on 08/04/2011 8:21:21 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: SmithL

If the Rats care so much about identity fraud, how about

> picture IDs, presented at the voting booth?

> IDs for legal immigration?

> IDs for access to ERs, public schools, food stamps?


14 posted on 08/05/2011 7:00:52 AM PDT by 4Liberty (88% of Americans are NON-UNION. We value honest, peaceful Free trade-NOT protectionist CARTELS)
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To: SmithL

War started by the Democrats? Don’t get my hopes up.


15 posted on 08/05/2011 12:54:16 PM PDT by afnamvet (I stand with Israel.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Last weekend, the state Democratic executive board made it official, declaring that "the initiative process is being abused by the use of misleading titles and advertisements by unscrupulous signature-gathering companies, hired signature collectors, and concealed sponsors to create laws and...
So, the truth is, the Democrats are all in favor of initiatives which support liberal causes, but oppose those which push a conservative idea.

What a succinct and accurate response to the title of the thread!

I wish I could remember all the awful laws that were passed through initiatives in California, and are still with us to our continuing detriment.

First and foremost, the asinine Measure that schools will get a guaranteed and constantly increasing percentage of the yearly budget, regardless of the fiscal condition of the State, or other pressing needs that must be ignored as a result.

Second, the passage of the great cigarette robbery, which exploited an identifiable group to bear the burden of onerous taxes with the lame excuse that it "cost the State" too much, and the taxes would be used to address the cost of smoking-related health care. A huge fraud. The revenues have been used for other purposes, includingd supporting AIDS "victims," gay, lesbian, bisexual and transexual issues, and BS propaganda "persuading" people to stop smoking, making a few liberal advertising companies rich. In addition the same "Nanny State" mentality is, as feared, being applied to food, drinks, snacks, recyclables and even circumcision! None of which can be resonably defined as the task or the power of government ---in a presumed free society.

Then there is the stem cell boondoggle.

Then there's the High speed train boondoggle.

The trend should scare the stuffing out of any and all citizens who believe in the Constitution and the rule of law. Not the arbitrary, whimsical and capricious ones.

Reap what you sow, California citizens!

16 posted on 08/05/2011 7:26:50 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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