Posted on 08/08/2011 10:14:35 PM PDT by Islander7
Originals are never to be destroyed, and Fukino came flat out and said that back when CNN claimed that the original had been destroyed. Furthermore, if the original was destroyed then we’ve got a bunch of big fat liars at the HDOH, and they should be fired and exposed to the entire world as the liars they are - and everything they ever said about Obama’s records called into question in court, with access to everything.
Basically we already know they are liars. They’ve lied about everything. They’ve broken just about every law and rule they have in HI regarding birth certificates and open records. They’ve altered their own records. They’ve claimed that they cannot report known forgeries even to law enforcement, when in fact it would be misprision of the felony of forgery for them to FAIL to report it to law enforcement.
People would like to think of the HDOH people as simply incompetent clowns, and I’m sure they’ve got some of those there too. But there are people within the HDOH who have stated outright that the obfuscation and illegalities are deliberate. Corsi has said that their insider at the HDOh knew exactly when the forged long-form was inserted into the records there. Okubo is the gate-keeper who handles everything Obama; HDOH workers have told me that.
Anyone know where this September 14 date comes from? I’ve looked at the linked documents, and there’s a proposed order to make Fuddy appear today (August 9), but it looks like it’s just something Orly wrote as a suggestion for the judge. I don’t see anything the judge actually signed or anything with the September 14 date on it.
“The penalty is kinda steep.”
The families of the 31 honorable troops who died last week should have a say in the penalty as well.
And purveyors (such as yourself) of flapdoodle should suffer everyone's scorn.
Orly didn’t secure an order from Judge Puglisi. She filed a motion to show cause and to compel production of documents. The Judge set a date of Sept 14th for a hearing on whether or not he should grant (i.e. sign) Orly’s proposed motion to compel.
Once again, Orly and WND make up their own version of reality.
“I think they are anticipating the lid getting blown off this birth certificate fiasco.”
I’ve thought that ever since I saw the first forgery was not even signed, but only rubber-stamped.
If I were in a position to sign a historical document like that, I’d go get a Mont Blanc fountain pen and sign it in large letters with flourishes.
Instead, state registar Alvin Onaka just had someone put his rubber-stamp facsimile signature on it. Why? I’ve always thought it was so he could say, when the crapola impacted the rotary air-distribution device, “What? Who, me? I never saw that document. One of my subordinates must have stamped it without my authorization.”
You’re apparently unaware that the Magistrate Judge has not really issued a substantive order. A “show cause” order is the vehicle by which a party seeking to enforce a subpoena brings the matter before the Court. It presents the first opportunity for the party resisting the subpoena to be heard on the matter.
Anyone else notice the lack of trolls in here today? They must be over at “Fast & Furious”, are they? Or maybe discussing the debt, or Biden betraying the Seals, or Soros making 10 billion on the downgrade, or China dumping the dollar standard, or....gee the trolls are getting spread thinner and thinner...I wonder why?
I’m aware of that.
God bless Dr. Orley for her sacrifices.
She’s put her life on the line to get the Marxist/Muslim.
And one day, I feel, she’ll get him.
Thanks. So two things: do we know that on anything other than Orly's say-so? 'Cause like I said, I haven't found a posted document with a Sept 14 date on it. And second, does Fuddy have to appear at that hearing, or is it just between Orly and the judge?
Her subpoena wasn't valid to compel anything. She was told that and showed up anyway. Lacking any legal standing, she got nothing.
Taitz then filed a motion asking the court to issue an order requiring Hawaii to explain why it didn't let Taitz see the birth certificate. That has already been explained to her, but she doesn't understand the legal issues involved. The hearing scheduled for September 14 is simply a hearing to determine if the court will issue the order Taitz requested. You can bet your mortgage they will not. It's a complete waste of time that has nothing to do with Fuddy or any other Hawaii official.
Didn't you hear? Obama took the day off, so most of them did as well. One or two came in to work anyway since they had nothing else going on.
Think of that guy as a test case for Zero!
The Founding Fathers made the Federal government, the state governments and the people responsible for maintaining the integrity of the system. We have clearly failed them!
I haven’t seen any official confirmation of the hearing being set. As I understand it, the plaintiff (Taitz) must provide notice of the hearing to the defendant (Fuddy) and any other interested parties. I’ve seen no official order “demanding” Fuddy’s attendance. It’s in her best interest to attend, but the hearing (if it is scheduled) will go on with or without Fuddy.
Orly has lead everyone to believe that the judge is demanding that Fuddy appear to explain why she hasn’t complied with the subpoena. In actuality, the hearing is to consider why the judge should grant Orly’s motion to compel. In his consideration the judge will probably try to determine if the production of Obama’s LFBC is necessary. Since Taitz v. Astrue is a FOIA case in D.C., it’s unlikely he’ll grant her motion. IIRC, Taitz v. Astrue hasn’t progressed to the stage of discovery in D.C. Orly has mis-filed, mis-re-filed, and re-filed her complaint in D.C. but that’s it.
I’ve filed a complaint in Texas against Allstate for failure to pay a legitimate claim. Now that I’ve done that, I’m going to issue a subpoena to you. Be prepared to hand over your birth certificate, tax records, and property deeds. I believe they’re relevant to my case and besides that I want to see them.
;p
“Orly didn’t secure an order from Judge Puglisi. She filed a motion to show cause and to compel production of documents. The Judge set a date of Sept 14th for a hearing on whether or not he should grant (i.e. sign) Orly’s proposed motion to compel.”
The judge set a hearing for the purpose of allowing the bureaucrats to show cause. How can they show cause if they’re not there? You’re just playing with words to make it appear that WND said something they didn’t.
No.
He did not set a hearing for the bureaucrats to show cause. He set a hearing on Orly’s request. In that hearing, he will determine whether her request is granted (i.e., whether the court will proceed to actually asking the bureaucrats to show cause).
Her request will be denied.
I'll do it right here, gladly. You let me know just as soon as the nutcase actually proves something to a court other than that she deserves sanctions.
You're request, however illegitimate, is far to cogent and comprehensible to properly satirize Orly.
Try : “me she chicken table regulation. COUNTRY DOOMED! ILLEGETIMATE! STALIN, STALIN, STALIN! brief legal am me demanding things.”
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