Posted on 08/13/2011 9:02:53 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
“So the only heroes are dead heroes? You made light of knowing you’d get flamed, but really, you sound like a malcontent who wishes you had been afforded hero status for doing something sometime in your life that was entirely un-noteworthy.”
No. To be honest, I wished I had phrased that one line a bit differently.
Oh yes, I knew I would probably get “flamed” but that’s alright, I’m a big boy.
Malcontent? I would have to agree with that. I’m not satisfied with how certain things are.
Do I wish I had been a hero at some point in my life? Maybe I have been....
“If I were a first responer, Id be organizing a sit-out on the day the authorities designated as first responder day.”
Actually, I think that’s bass-ackwards.
If I were one of the ‘neglected first-responders’ — NYPD, NYFD, whatever — I would proceed as follows:
Send out the word that we ARE going to muster, say at City Hall or near Battery Park; form ranks and MARCH enmasse to Ground Zero; appropriate a space and, respectfully, salute those who can’t be there in their proper person.
The Anniversary of 9/11, celebrated as a memorial AT Ground Zero, belongs to ALL who were there and / or were directly affected by this criminal assault on our Country. It is NOT the province of today’s politicians to pick and choose who is ‘fit’ or ‘allowed’ to attend.
BTW: Somebody should suggest to Bush 43 that his attendance IN SPITE of this reprehensible winnowing of the allowed or invited guests would be an inexcusable affront to the ‘neglected responders’.
One Man’s Opinion
21stCenturion
“They are paid to do their jobs, but they are not paid to die for their jobs.”
No one is paid to die. However, in some professions, it’s understood that dying while doing the job, may occur. Is a truck driver a hero when he dies in an accident while on the road? Probably not, but was he helping people while on the job and gave his life in the process?
Being a “hero” is so subjective to me. Maybe my standards are a bit warped. The word is so overused nowadays. It’s almost as bad as “racist”. It’s been used so often that it begins to lose its true meaning after a while. :-/
If I were Bush or Guiliani, I’d decline the tenth anniversary.
But I would be there for whenever they celebrate it with the first responders.
Itd be an unmistakable slap against Obama.
“Yeah, your a ass. Congratulations on reaching your pinnacle.”
Thanks?
Sorry, I neglected one key point.
I would conduct this muster and march ON 9/11, DURING and AT the ‘official’ memorial.
It would, perhaps, lose some of it’s effect if done at any other time or place.
One Man’s Opinion
21stCenturion
Guess which 911 event will be televised during Prime Time, covered by the MSM on the front page of major newspapers, and and be propagandized to the hilt, with awards being given out by Obama and Bloomberg?
Now guess which 911 event will be a ten second news story at 3am in the morning, covered by the MSM on page k35, and any awards will be given out by the head janitor of New York Sanitation?
“A hero is somebody who is willing to risk their life for others - not necessarily somebody who gave it. Obviously those who died did risk their lives, or they wouldn’t have been there to die - but those who risked their lives and managed to get out are heroes too.”
I enjoyed your post.
Your defintion is way too broad for me. I think most people would risk their lives for others, depending on the situation. I admit fire/police do that more than most professions, but is that enough to be a “hero”? No, not to me.
Using your definition, I think most people could be considered heroes, eventually.
With that word being as overused as it is, I think my own standard of a hero is a lot higher than most. I think it’s that way because I try (rightly or wrongly) to protect the word, if that makes sense.
Most, if not all people, do heroic things in their lives. I accept that. To be a “hero” involves more. What that “more” is, depends on the person wanting to use that title.
Maybe I don’t “get it”. I can accept that too. All I can say is that my standards are mine.
Thank you. :)
FWIW, I worked with a Vietnam Vet who often said "The only heroes I know are dead!" This was often in response to his perceived over-use of the term "Hero" in today's culture. So, while society now often equates military and first-responder personnel as "heroes", that man, at least, agrees with your statement. From his perspective, other men died so that he could live, which makes them heroes because they made the ultimate sacrifice. According to him, he was just doing his job.
“Included in the death toll were hundreds of firefighters and rescue personnel who responded to the crashes at the World Trade Center site and who were in the process of rescuing those inside when the buildings collapsed.”
excerpt http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/9-11.aspx
Let’s always honor the firt responders, our heroes.
There was room for the First Responders on 9/11/01, but no room for them at the ceremony now?
There have been a couple threads about this, and it is all over facebook...
For what it is worth, there have been a couple threads about this, and it is all over facebook...
You’re overthinking the situation.
As Bush stated earlier today, the passengers on Flight 93 represented the first battlefield casualties against the fight on terrorism in the 21st Century. They weren’t deployed, they weren’t on call, they were just Citizens of the US Constitution. Amazing isn’t it; citizens were the first to kick terrorist ass! But more amazing is the fact that citizens regularly volunteer to answer the bell, and voluntarily prepare for deployment.
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