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Is Reagan Relevant Today?
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Posted on 08/20/2011 9:27:02 PM PDT by Hillary's Folly

His Method Makes Sense Today


TOPICS: Philosophy
KEYWORDS: reagan; ronald; thepresident; ughhh
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1 posted on 08/20/2011 9:27:07 PM PDT by Hillary's Folly
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To: Hillary's Folly

It is a building block.


2 posted on 08/20/2011 9:29:04 PM PDT by hope
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To: Hillary's Folly

President Ronald Reagan and Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.
Modern era conservative heroes. We'll not soon see their like again.

3 posted on 08/20/2011 9:34:59 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Hillary's Folly

Yes he is, but he couldn’t carry California today.


4 posted on 08/20/2011 9:35:41 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Liberty Valance

great pic, Liberty


5 posted on 08/20/2011 9:37:35 PM PDT by Hillary's Folly (Imagine there's no Hillary. It's easy if you try.)
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To: Aetius

Yes, more relevant than ever!


6 posted on 08/20/2011 9:37:39 PM PDT by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Neither are Liberalism and Stupidity! Pay one price or the other!)
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To: Hillary's Folly

The demographics of this country have changed dramatically since Reagan’s time.


7 posted on 08/20/2011 9:38:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Aetius
"Yes he is, but he couldn’t carry California today."

And that's to his credit, isn't it?

8 posted on 08/20/2011 9:40:17 PM PDT by davisfh (Islam is a mental illness with global social consequences)
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To: Hillary's Folly

The World desperately needs new thinking, the World needs a conservative response to a unique set of circumstances.

Invoking the name and memory of Reagan will not solve these problems.

Reagan was original, he was a man who spent a great deal of time grappling with the issues of the day. Thatcher studied Von Hayek and Friedman before declaring “this is what we believe!”. These two giants dealt with a very different set of circumstances.

I don’t think there is anyone in the present Republican line-up who has seriously considered the issues of this day and age. Communist China is not your Daddy’s Soviet Union. The Soviet Union was an economic basket case, while China is tested by the markets daily.

America has a balance of payments problem and very poor growth prospects in the short term. These are unfortunately, not going to go away without pain - and nobody, Democrat or Republican has the moral courage to tell the American people that.


9 posted on 08/20/2011 9:57:47 PM PDT by AfricanChristian
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Yeah, but Reagan deserves some of the blame for California becoming such a Democratic state because he wasn’t any good on immigration. The effects of the disastrous 1965 Immigration Reform Act were obvious by the 1980s, yet Reagan signed an amnesty and never called out Ted Kennedy for all of the false promises about the 1965 Act (that’s a little unfair I admit, since no other Republican did so, or has done so).

Just 6 years after Reagan left office, the GOP won its last significant, statewide race in California when Pete Wilson rode Prop 186 to a landslide reelection (Schwarzenegger does not count). The GOP couldn’t even knock off an unpopular Barbar Boxer last year in a huge Republican year. It’s just too bad that Reagan couldn’t see what was happening to his home state.


10 posted on 08/20/2011 10:08:57 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: AfricanChristian

WOW! all the questions AND answers are in your response


11 posted on 08/20/2011 10:10:05 PM PDT by Hillary's Folly (Imagine there's no Hillary. It's easy if you try.)
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To: Hillary's Folly

If you have seen Reagan’s speech that announced his candidacy for the 1980 Presidential election, what he said at the first half of that speech makes more sense than ever. Indeed, I see one Sarah Palin echoing exactly those sentiments in her public statements of the past two years.


12 posted on 08/20/2011 10:10:08 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Aetius
So, it's all about the GOP for you, Aetius? And false promises? The GOP would never engage in those... it's about leaders in times of trouble, people. and the way in which they diffused the bomb of their time.
13 posted on 08/20/2011 10:17:33 PM PDT by Hillary's Folly (Imagine there's no Hillary. It's easy if you try.)
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To: Hillary's Folly

It is rare to find internet “conservatives” that honor Reagan by following his 11th Commandment.

So in that regard, he is no longer relevant.


14 posted on 08/20/2011 10:24:30 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Hillary's Folly

My 9 year old son has the Saluting Reagan Poster on his wall. Ask him why we no longer fear Nuclear Missiles, and he will point to that poster and said because of him. I have taught him well. Dang right Reagan is still relevant.

Saluting Reagan

http://www.authenticgop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=Reagan


15 posted on 08/20/2011 10:26:45 PM PDT by NavyCanDo (Go Mama Grizzly! Palin 2012)
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To: Hillary's Folly

Reagan deserves tremendous credit for triumphing in at least 2 of the key issues of his time; winning the Cold War (when so many thought we were doomed to lose) and ending the Stagflation of the Carter years and getting the economy roaring again.

He was a great man, and in many ways a great President.

But when reviewing the whole record, he has to be faulted for his blinders on immigration, and of course for inflicting us with Sandra Day O’Connor.


16 posted on 08/20/2011 10:33:17 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Liberty Valance

Great pic, here’s my caption:
Horizons expanded beyond clear view,
and oaks grew past the sky.
For Earth’s blessings numbered two,
the day Freedom strolled on by.

Reagan is the most Relephant guy in the room.

Fortunately his shoulders are bigger than ALL our feet.


17 posted on 08/20/2011 10:36:48 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: Hillary's Folly

Reagan, For Those Under 40
June 2004

By John Carlson - Conservative Commentator.

This may sound shocking to anyone under 40, but 25 years ago, a lot of serious people were seriously wondering whether America’s best days were already past us.
Time magazine ran a cover story asking “Where have all the Heroes Gone?”
Inflation was 12%, Unemployment over 7% and both were rising simultaneously, giving birth to a new term, “stagflation”. Gasoline was just as expensive as it is today (accounting for inflation), except there wasn’t much to buy and long lines snaked around the block. Articles in respected magazines and newspapers asked whether the American Presidency was “too big a job for just one person”.
American soldiers weren’t the good guys. Just watch any war movie made in the mid-to late 70’s. If our guys weren’t bad, they were distraught, discouraged, crazy or suicidal.
Just 10 short years before becoming the world’s only Superpower, America seemed paralyzed after Vietnam while the Soviet empire expanded throughout the Third World. And it wasn’t just the Communists pushing us around. Millions of Americans watched Islamic militants sack the American embassy in Iran and march 52 blindfolded American hostages in front of television cameras. They wouldn’t release them for over 400 days.
In the Spring of 1979, President Jimmy Carter delivered one of the most unusual presidential speeches ever delivered from the White House. Known today as the “Malaise” speech, its theme was that America was suffering a “crisis of the spirit”. Even Democrats were not impressed. Carter was challenged for renomination by Senator Ted Kennedy. Carter won (or Kennedy lost, more accurately), but his party was divided and his nation was despondent.
Enter Ronald Reagan. Against this somber background, Reagan insisted that America’s brightest days were still in front of us, not behind us. He rejected the Vietnam syndrome, instead declaring that America was not the cause of corruption and evil abroad, but the cure for it, particularly in facing down Soviet communism. As for solving problems at home, we didn’t need the government to do more, we needed it to do less. The size, girth and expense of government was the problem, not the solution. In an era preoccupied with the “complexity” of insoluble problems, Reagan said “There are simple solutions - just not easy ones.”
Sophisticated people found Reagan, well....... unsophisticated. Also naive, not all that bright, and much too hard line.
But Reagan was telling Americans what they wanted to hear and what they wanted to believe about their country. And when they elected him by a 41 State landslide, he went to work doing what he said he would do.
He said his program to cut income taxes, government regulation and domestic government spending would unleash a rising tide of jobs, prosperity and opportunity. It did. He said that deregulating oil prices would lower the price of gasoline and end the “energy crisis”. It did. He said he would fire the air traffic controllers who were illegally striking if they didn’t return to work. He did.
As for dealing with the Soviets, Reagan said that his program of vastly increasing military spending, planting Pershing missiles in NATO countries and aiding anti-Soviet rebels throughout the Third World would one day relegate Marxist Leninism to “the ash heap of history”. This was too much for his critics, made up of a big chunk of Congress, most university professors, and much of the national news media. They regarded Reagan as either dumb, a warmonger or both, and they insisted that his policies would trigger a never-ending arms race and perhaps lead to the unthinkable – a nuclear war.
When Reagan announced his support for a space-based system to defend the country from a nuclear strike, tensions rose even higher. ABC aired a movie, “The Day After”, about America under nuclear attack. The “nuclear freeze” movement in 1984 was every bit as intense and its demonstrations every bit as large as the anti-Iraq-War movement is in 2004. History has yet to render a verdict on Iraq, but we already know who was right about the Soviets. The dumb warmonger won the Cold War without firing a shot. And soldiers were the good guys in the movies again. Martin Sheen and Marlon Brando in “Apocalypse Now” gave way to Tom Cruise and Tom Skerrit in “Top Gun”.
But Reagan did more than unlock the American economy and liberate millions of people from Communist captivity. He gave America back its smile. His sense of humor helped, but so did his belief that political differences weren’t personal differences, a sentiment that seems to have gone missing on both sides in recent years.
Where should history rank Reagan? Probably as the greatest President in the last 50 years because, like Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Reagan defined and ignited an entire political movement. For FDR it was New Deal liberalism. For Reagan, American conservatism.
Before Reagan, conservatism was instinctively reactive and mostly negative: stop spending on this, don’t do that, etc. Reagan made it both positive and pro-active - a movement based on core beliefs and clear ideas. As Ted Kennedy, of all people, put it, Reagan “wrote most of these ideas not only into law, but into the national consciousness.”
Dozens of conservative think tanks and more than 40 state-based policy centers around the country are daily churning out ideas for policymakers based on free markets, limited government and personal responsibility. Reaganism lives on.
Today we take it for granted in America that great days are still in front of us. We take for granted that lower taxes will stimulate growth. We take for granted that the best way to deal with deadly adversaries is to stand up to them, not make excuses for them.
25 short years ago, Americans didn’t take any of those things for granted. That’s what Reagan changed.


18 posted on 08/20/2011 10:44:13 PM PDT by NavyCanDo (Go Mama Grizzly! Palin 2012)
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To: NavyCanDo

thank you


19 posted on 08/20/2011 10:53:56 PM PDT by Hillary's Folly (Imagine there's no Hillary. It's easy if you try.)
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To: truth_seeker
There is a reason that commandment was relegated to 11th...
20 posted on 08/20/2011 10:55:37 PM PDT by Hillary's Folly (Imagine there's no Hillary. It's easy if you try.)
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