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Poll shows Gov. Perry tied for the GOP lead in N.C.
North Carolina News Network ^ | August 22, 2011 | Josh Zach/David Horn

Posted on 08/22/2011 10:29:19 AM PDT by AAABEST

(RALEIGH) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has been in the Presidential race for barely more than a week, but Tom Jensen with Public Policy Polling said a recent round of polling in North Carolina and Colorado already ranks Perry close to deserving front runner status.

"We're already finding Perry tied for the lead in both North Carolina and Colorado and these polls were conducted before he even officially entered the race," said Jensen.

In North Carolina Perry is in a three way tie with Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin. Each getting 17-percent. Perry also led a poll conducted in Virginia three weeks ago.


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Two interesting things can be gleaned from this very short article.

1. Perry was polling very well in these states even before he entered the race or did any campaigning.

2. If Perry and Palin are both in, the conservative vote will be continuously split from state to state as it was in 2008.

In the same way that dynamic made McCain the "default" nominee 2008, it will work very much to Willard Romney's advantage.

1 posted on 08/22/2011 10:29:23 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: southernnorthcarolina
These polls go a long way toward proving the point you made here.
2 posted on 08/22/2011 10:33:04 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: AAABEST

2. If Perry and Palin are both in, the conservative vote will be continuously split from state to state as it was in 2008.

In the same way that dynamic made McCain the “default” nominee 2008, it will work very much to Willard Romney’s advantage


I have said this over and over here. I usually get lit up like Bagdad Circa 2003 for my efforts, but we are both correct. Too many conservative candidates will split support and nominate Mitt by default. I will not settle on one yet but I plan to soon. If Sarah is not in the race (possible announcement on September 3rd) soon, I’m going with Perry. If she waits a couple more months and jumps in, TFB.


3 posted on 08/22/2011 10:34:08 AM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Palin, Perry, None of the rest matter 'til the general)
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To: AAABEST

Looks like all the corporate welfare is paying off for Ricardo P.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2767354/posts


4 posted on 08/22/2011 10:34:08 AM PDT by Fred ('Just cus I said it, don't mean I meant it'....Obamaism)
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To: AAABEST

I think Perry will win NC. That being said the NC primary occurs so late in the calendar, the GOP nominee will probably be decided already.


5 posted on 08/22/2011 10:36:05 AM PDT by o2bfree
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To: AAABEST

Then it seems that for the good of the country, Perry should drop out.

Our country needs Palin as our President, not Perry.


6 posted on 08/22/2011 10:36:46 AM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: Fred

Did he do something illegal? If not you’re sounding like an Obama shill/ Democrat.


7 posted on 08/22/2011 10:37:47 AM PDT by o2bfree
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To: AAABEST

Well if Perry is the Romney killer we were all hoping for, which it appears he is, then I am all for him. If we can knock Myth out of a few of these Primaries, he will be toast.


8 posted on 08/22/2011 10:51:57 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: AAABEST
Al Gore's former Texas campaign manager - Rick Perry can not split or even affect the conservative vote in any way because former Democrat Perry is another establishment RINO who competes with and splits the Rockefeller vote with Mitt Romneycare. The two of them are pretty much twins.

The conservative vote is pretty much going to Cain and Bachmann at the moment, with hopes that Palin and Brewer might jump in.

9 posted on 08/22/2011 10:52:39 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Gator113

have you looked at the ‘nation wide’ polls on her favorability?

If we nominate her, we will get 4 more years of Obama.

She is a wonderful woman, but no way should she enter this race.


10 posted on 08/22/2011 11:03:56 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: MrEdd

The country needs Cain over Bachman any day. Cain and Gingrich are the only candidates who recognize the the dangers that Islam poses to this country and are willing to mention it.

Consider this — we can jump through hoops, get the economy growing again, regain our AAA rating, get jobs for everyone who wants to work, but if shariah law gets hold of this country it will be all for nought and we’ll be back at square one, and most likely worse off.

Seen a shariah-run country with the ideals we aspire to?


11 posted on 08/22/2011 11:04:40 AM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is Satan's handiwork.)
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To: AAABEST

If people look at the records, rather than the rhetoric, it will be Perry and Romney splitting the moderate vote, assuming a conservative enters the race, or one of the others in the race catch on.


12 posted on 08/22/2011 11:06:01 AM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: Gator113

She’ll enter the race on September 3. On September 4 she’ll announce that Bravo has the rights to air her campaign as a reality show.


13 posted on 08/22/2011 11:10:38 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Dudoight

We will continue to disagree on this.

Had folks bought your argument many years ago, we would have never elected Reagan.


14 posted on 08/22/2011 11:10:41 AM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: AAABEST

“Seventeen things critics are saying about Rick Perry” (and the truth)....http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/rick-perrys-negatives/

This puts Perry’s record, which is very positive, in perspective. It also talks about the relative strength of the Texas governorship.


15 posted on 08/22/2011 11:10:53 AM PDT by LOC1 (Let's pick the best, not settle for a compromise.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I don’t think she is going to announce on the MSM created date of September 3, but she will a few weeks later.

I do recommend that you drink lots of water and stay with soft foods. This will lesson the chance of large chunks coming up and blocking your airway while you are puking your guts out....... when she does announce and goes on to take this country by storm.


16 posted on 08/22/2011 11:24:40 AM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I don’t think she is going to announce on the MSM created date of September 3, but she will a few weeks later.

I do recommend that you drink lots of water and stay with soft foods. This will lesson the chance of large chunks coming up and blocking your airway while you are puking your guts out....... when she does announce and goes on to take this country by storm.


17 posted on 08/22/2011 11:25:29 AM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: Ingtar

I would say that Perry will pull from both moderates and conservatives. He has a strong list of conservative positives, far more than Mitt. See post 31 at the link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2766822/posts

Perry is very strong against abortion and gay marriage, and he rejects the idiocy of global warming. He also has very strong fiscal creds which will be extrememly important in the general wooing indies that don’t care about social issues.

Yes, he also has his negatives. Perry’s record has been hashed over repeatedly on this conservative site in the past few days. Many Palin supporters, including me, have stated, that they will support Perry if Sarah does not get in, I have not heard one of them say they will support Mitt if Sarah does not get in. Some will go to Bachmann.


18 posted on 08/22/2011 11:26:35 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Gator113

My argument doesn’t apply to Reagan’s situation. He didn’t get the nomination the first time around. I was on Reagan’s bandwagon the first and second time. I guess I am sort of elderly.

It has never been more critical to get this present administration out of office for the future of this nation. I want to take no chances.


19 posted on 08/22/2011 11:28:28 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: AAABEST

2012 Republican Presidential Nomination

Polling Data

Poll Date Romney Perry Palin Bachmann Giuliani Paul Cain Gingrich Huntsman Santorum Spread
RCP Average 8/2 - 8/15 20.2 18.4 10.0 9.6 9.3 8.8 5.0 5.0 2.2 1.8 Romney +1.8
Rasmussen Reports 8/15 - 8/15 18 29 -- 13 -- 9 6 5 1 1 Perry +11
FOX News 8/7 - 8/9 21 13 8 7 7 6 5 6 2 2 Romney +8
CNN/Opinion Research 8/5 - 8/7 17 15 12 7 12 12 4 5 4 2 Romney +2
USA Today/Gallup 8/4 - 8/7 24 17 -- 13 -- 14 4 7 2 1 Romney +7
McClatchy/Marist 8/2 - 8/4 21 18 10 8 9 3 6 2 2 3 Romney +3

2012 Presidential Primaries, Caucuses, and Conventions Chronologically

The above dates aren't set in stone as of yet.....

20 posted on 08/22/2011 11:30:46 AM PDT by deport ( In Texas it's hotter than two goats fighting in a jalapeno patch.)
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