Posted on 08/26/2011 5:19:42 PM PDT by Steelfish
I can’t imagine why the Democrats want to do away with the propositions. If one passes they don’t like, they just get it overturned.
Like they’re trying to do with Prop 8, the definition of marriage proposition. And there was another one recently, can’t remember what it was, that they DID get overturned. Does anyone remember what that one was?
Not sure if the legislature legally can do anything to conflict with the peoples referendum. If that was the case, they would have gone after Prop 13 a long time ago.
You're in Arizona so you don't know that the ONLY way to reign in the legislature is by the initiative process here in CA. Democrats are just 2 seats shy of 2/3rd majorities in each chambers and redistricting looks to be giving it to them.
Without the initiative process in CA we would not have outlawed race-based preferences in college admissions, we would not have banned bilingual education in favor of English emersion, we would not have passed one-man-one-woman marriage, we would not have taken control of the run away property tax increases and more.
It's the last hope remaining in CA to get anything fixed that the radicals will not act upon or to stop some of their worst ideas.
It's difficult and very costly but it remains an important firewall against the most egregious actions of an extreme legislature.
The legislature can change the rules of how the initiative process is done, like they're doing here and tried to do last month with a bill that would've greatly increased cost for signature gathering while exempting unions—that was too far even for Brown.
They can't change what has been done via initiative without a further vote of the people or, as we've seen, via the courts.
Not sure that the courts would agree if it appears to be an attempt to stifle the process.
They've also got union thugs (SEIU purple shirts) intimidating gatherers and would-be signers.
We saw in a popular education reform signature gathering effort earlier this year, they undertook a broad campaign of fraud which ultimately sunk the initiative with duplicative and fake signatures.
For CPR, the Lincoln Club is paying a third party to verify each signature immediately before final the submission in order to weed out and detect widespread fraud.
It would be nice if the courts would see it that way but I wouldn’t put my trust in it happening.
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