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1 posted on 09/01/2011 6:38:46 AM PDT by Iron Munro
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To: Iron Munro; Joe Brower

About damn time!!

Joe, for your list.


2 posted on 09/01/2011 6:40:32 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Iron Munro

‘The state of Florida is going after a gang of gun outlaws by threatening them with $5,000 fines, firings and lawsuits.

So who’s in the gang?

St. Petersburg, Brooksville, Tampa, Hillsborough County —and other scattered scofflaws.

As a result, city councils and county commissions are now scrambling to rewrite local laws, because they’re staring down the barrel at those fines, firings and lawsuits.’

The article makes this sound like a bad thing. Why? Is holding our govt to the law the wrong thing to do? It seems that the commies & statists at the Times need a refresher in American govt. or perhaps emigrate to a country more in keeping w/ their political ideology. Usually all the news from Floriduh is bad but this is certainly very good news indeed. Would like to see how it goes for those govt officials/agents who thumb their noses at the law. My guess is they’ll get off scott free as usual. Nonetheless the sentiment in the law is heart warming.


3 posted on 09/01/2011 6:46:10 AM PDT by 556x45
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St. Petersburg police Chief Chuck Harmon said, "I think they went overboard. I understand if they want to regulate state gun laws as the Legislature has the authority to do. But what happens to an officer who may misapply an ordinance? That seems like an awful lot of penalties for something that may be unintentional."

Well, chief, maybe you will want to keep your boys and girls on a short leash and train them as to the law before you sic them on innocent citizens who may be the targets of misapplied ordinances.

How would those same citizens be treated by you and your ilk if that same citizen happens to break one of your laws? Is he going to have to deal with a lot of penalties for something that may be unintentional? Of course he would.

Stop the whining like a punk and get your people in line.
4 posted on 09/01/2011 6:47:48 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Iron Munro
St. Petersburg police Chief Chuck Harmon said, "I think they went overboard. I understand if they want to regulate state gun laws as the Legislature has the authority to do. But what happens to an officer who may misapply an ordinance? That seems like an awful lot of penalties for something that may be unintentional."

Cry me a river, Chief. When this happens to a "civillian" your guys arest, you spout, "Ignorance of the law is no excuse." Same same here.

5 posted on 09/01/2011 6:48:28 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Iron Munro

It’s about time these liberals face the music for denying us our second amendment rights!!!


6 posted on 09/01/2011 6:54:46 AM PDT by ontap
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...
Like I'm always saying, the more the lefties shriek, the more you know something good is going on.

Decades of flagrant anti-gun legislation is being rolled back at a rapid pace under Governor Rick Scott's leadership.

Horror of horrors! Blood in the Streets! Etc., etc...

Florida Freeper


7 posted on 09/01/2011 7:03:20 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Florida is indeed a great state for firearms rights.

Now if we just had some free woods to go shooting... Thirty years ago that wasn't a problem. Now, unless you know someone who owns a lot of property (or do yourself), it's the local range or nothing. A shame...

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

8 posted on 09/01/2011 7:07:46 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Iron Munro

Is this saying that the state now controls all gun laws, not the cities? This is not good. We the People ....


11 posted on 09/01/2011 7:12:40 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Iron Munro
All those ordinances have been illegal for years because state law prevents cities and counties from regulating guns. But a new law, set to take effect Oct. 1, takes it a step further. It allows judgments of up to $100,000 against local governments that enforce such laws. And, in an unusual move, the law also says local officials could be fired and fined $5,000, with no representation from the city or county attorney.

I see that Florida avoided the mistake that New Hampshire made. The law demands certain behavior with respect to guns from our cities and towns, but some of them simply ignore the law because there is no statutory penalty, only a civil cause of action on the part of the victim who has to pay their own way in order to enforce the law.

20 posted on 09/01/2011 8:26:05 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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Conn said city officials at first reacted with "a level of disbelief" as they realized their governments could be penalized and "you're going to be held personally liable as well."

That should apply to all areas. I can imagine the panic once these bozos realized that THEY might actually be held responsible for their deeds. The Horror!

21 posted on 09/01/2011 8:52:13 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Iron Munro

“St. Petersburg police Chief Chuck Harmon said, “I think they went overboard. I understand if they want to regulate state gun laws as the Legislature has the authority to do. But what happens to an officer who may misapply an ordinance? That seems like an awful lot of penalties for something that may be unintentional.””

Cry me a river. If law enforcement doesn’t know how to properly apply the laws on the books, they have no business being in law enforcement. We’re not talking about a small mistake here, we are talking about wanton and systematic deprivation of Constitutional rights. They’re lucky I wasn’t put in charge of drafting the law, or they would be spending a long time in prison instead of paying a fine.


22 posted on 09/01/2011 9:08:06 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Iron Munro
St. Petersburg police Chief Chuck Harmon said, "I think they went overboard. I understand if they want to regulate state gun laws as the Legislature has the authority to do. But what happens to an officer who may misapply an ordinance? That seems like an awful lot of penalties for something that may be unintentional."

I wonder if he applies the same legal philosophy when it's one of the more important people (private citizens) charged with violating a law.

23 posted on 09/01/2011 9:56:42 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Iron Munro

A big win for freedom in Florida.


25 posted on 09/01/2011 10:44:14 AM PDT by wastedyears (Of course you realize, this means war.)
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