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To: ReformationFan

I believe Gays ARE born that way. I recall, being in the 2nd or 3rd grade a few boys who were effeminate, hung around with girls, who were into dancing and not baseball, and who later grew up to be full-fledged homos.

I can’t buy that 7 and 8 year old boys chose to act effeminately at such an early age. They were genetically predisposed to be that way.


12 posted on 09/14/2011 1:36:06 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

My lib SIL worked to feminize her boys from birth.
She encouraged “girly’ things, got them tea sets and Fisher Price kitchens. She encourage them to be girls at every turn.

It’s nurture and not nature, my friend.
If it was nature than identical twins would always be of the same sexual persuasion.


18 posted on 09/14/2011 1:46:30 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Signalman
I believe Gays ARE born that way.

IMO, some are. I remember some queer telling me that nobody in his right mind would choose that lifestyle, considering all the hate and disgust heaped upon its practitioners. When you seen people in high positions who have much to lose soliciting sex in a public restroom, for instance, that's telling me the inborn sexual preferences are kicking in.

21 posted on 09/14/2011 1:48:51 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Signalman

God states very clearly that homosexuality is a sin, wrong and an abomination. He rejects this perverted lifestyle choice. (see Sodom and Gomorrah)

God disagrees with your insane belief.


24 posted on 09/14/2011 1:53:28 PM PDT by newfreep (I am a "terrorist". I am Sarah Palin!)
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To: Signalman
I can’t buy that 7 and 8 year old boys chose to act effeminately at such an early age. They were genetically predisposed to be that way.

Do you have knowledge of their home life?

Who did their parent(s) hang with?

Unless you personally know about their family life style you can only assume that they were "born that way".

26 posted on 09/14/2011 2:00:14 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: Signalman

My observation is that male gays are identified with domineering mothers who don’t nurture or value male traits in their boys, and often with the lack of a strong male role model in their lives. As these boys grow they don’t know how to be boys. At first, while younger, they may prefer to play with girls. They may feel intimidated by normal boys. Later they see other boys like themselves and tend to identify and socialize with them. By this time they may feel intimidated by girls. Have you noticed that there seems to be more male gays than there was years ago? It is probably because more boys are raised in the manner described above. No, male gays are not born that way. I do not favor discrimination or hatred against self identified gays. However, being gay is just a behavior exhibited by some people and is not a separate category of humans requiring special status in our laws, imo.


27 posted on 09/14/2011 2:01:00 PM PDT by Sam Clements
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To: Signalman

I believe Gays ARE born that way. I recall, being in the 2nd or 3rd grade a few boys who were effeminate, hung around with girls, who were into dancing and not baseball, and who later grew up to be full-fledged homos.


I agree. At least a significant number of homosexual men were always that way - you could say they were born to be that way, and they’ll tell you so.

A significant number of lesbians are such by choice. Presumably because they are angry at men for not being attracted to them, or for being dealt a bad hand in the beauty card game.

Those are my firm opinions based on my own observations.


51 posted on 09/14/2011 3:38:25 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Are you better off now than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: Signalman

“They were genetically predisposed to be that way.”

There may be some predisposition to effeminancy but that does not equal deviation, which is necessary for anyone to indulge in homosexuality. There is nothing so starkly noticable in their own autobiography as their revulsion for gay sex and the process of overcoming it; to say nothing of the anger and self hate they display in their lifestyles.


53 posted on 09/14/2011 3:40:33 PM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Signalman
I'll go even farther out on your limb. In my anecdotal opinion, lesbians are "made" and not born, and male homosexuals are born and not made. At least I observe that this is the case most of the time.

Sexuality, I believe, has to do with access. Think of prisons and same-sex boarding schools.

63 posted on 09/14/2011 5:26:25 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Signalman
I can’t buy that 7 and 8 year old boys chose to act effeminately at such an early age. They were genetically predisposed to be that way.

It is a behavior. Do you know what imprinting is? A baby chick will follow the first think that moves and this is good. Imprinting is also part of the human response and it is there for a very good reason. Young children can be imprinted to a behavior if exposed at just the right time.

That said, behaviors are complex. But behaviors can be changed. No always easy but can be done. The big question is not what causes it but is it an acceptable behavior. This is the question the homos don't want us to talk about.

But you have to understand they are not born that way. A predisposition maybe, but then by that I should have been an alcoholic

68 posted on 09/14/2011 5:47:47 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: Signalman
I can’t buy that 7 and 8 year old boys chose to act effeminately at such an early age. They were genetically predisposed to be that way.

It is a behavior. Do you know what imprinting is? A baby chick will follow the first think that moves and this is good. Imprinting is also part of the human response and it is there for a very good reason. Young children can be imprinted to a behavior if exposed at just the right time.

That said, behaviors are complex. But behaviors can be changed. No always easy but can be done. The big question is not what causes it but is it an acceptable behavior. This is the question the homos don't want us to talk about.

But you have to understand they are not born that way. A predisposition maybe, but then by that I should have been an alcoholic

70 posted on 09/14/2011 5:48:41 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: Signalman; Oatka

Anyone who thinks homosexuals are born that way needs to read this, there are links in the article. Most homosexuals were molested when young.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2730140/posts

Not born this way: The facts, plus help available
Save California ^ | Various authors

Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 7:48:09 AM by scripter

Without any reputable evidence, the entertainment culture, uneducated media, and sexual activists have seduced today’s teenagers, in particular, to believe that people are born homosexual.

However, science has found no biological basis for homosexuality, bisexuality, or transsexuality.

Study after study has found the “LGBT” lifestyle to be unhealthy, with the highest rate of sexually-transmitted diseases, and higher cancer rates and earlier deaths.

While all people are worthy and valuable, the fact is people are not “born this way,” as a popular song insists.

On this page you will find:

1. The facts on homosexuality
2. Resources to overcome homosexual behavior and gender identity disorder
3. An important video message titled “Does God Love Gay People?”
4. Some personal stories from people who used to live a homosexual lifestyle

Homosexuality is not innate; no biological origin


96 posted on 09/15/2011 7:07:32 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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