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No apologies: Bachmann defends HPV remarks
CBS "News" ^ | 15 Sep 2011 | Sarah Huisenga

Posted on 09/16/2011 7:51:54 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Michele Bachmann is on the defensive about comments she made earlier this week suggesting that a vaccine against a virus linked to cervical cancer poses a danger to young girls.

"During the debate, I didn't make any statements that would indicate that I'm a doctor, I'm a scientist or that I'm making any conclusions about the drug one way or another," the GOP presidential hopeful told reporters here who questioned her about the story she told suggesting that the vaccine had caused mental retardation. Asked whether she would apologize for comments that outraged medical experts say will discourage parents from getting their children immunized, Bachmann said: "Oh, I'm not going to answer that."

During the Republican debate Bachmann attacked her rival Rick Perry for mandating vaccinations against the human papillomavirus vaccine (HPV) for Texas school girls - a decision that the Texas legislature later overruled.

"To have innocent little 12-year-old girls be forced to have a government injection through an executive order is just flat out wrong," she said during the debate.

After the debate, Bachmann took her critique a step further, describing in several television interviews how a tearful mother had approached her after the debate saying that her daughter "suffered mental retardation" as a result of the vaccine.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiscience; antivax; bachmann; bachmann4romney; bachmannisaliar; captaingardasil; gardasil; hpv; perry; perrycare; rinorick; scaremonger
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Stick a fork in her, she's done.

While she's right on the point about vaccination should be voluntary, the fact remains that her mouth seems to be working while her brain isn't - and that's been increasing the past few weeks (and we can't blame Ed Rollins for this one, since it was an off-the-cuff remark).

Even putting aside the spurious accusations against vaccination, how credible can Bachmann be when she appears determined to confuse autism with mental retardation - which are actually two very different things?

1 posted on 09/16/2011 7:51:57 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

You really seem fixated with her. How much is Perry paying you to post these threads.


2 posted on 09/16/2011 7:53:29 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

She needs to close her mouth or she will lose her House seat next year.


3 posted on 09/16/2011 7:54:01 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I have a question... since I don't have children, I don't know the answer to this... Don't they require that your children have a whole assortment of vaccinations anyway? Not that I agree with that, but how is this vaccine any different from the whole cocktail of vaccines your four-year-old is required to have before starting public school?

Just tell kids a shot is required before engaging in sex. Those legs will clamp shut faster than anything else you could tell them.

4 posted on 09/16/2011 7:54:51 AM PDT by ponygirl (People are calling our President the Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers; thatÂ’s not allowed is it?)
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To: driftdiver
How much is Perry paying you to post these threads.

$500 a post. I'd better get crackin', daddy needs a new bass boat!

5 posted on 09/16/2011 7:55:52 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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“During the debate, I didn’t make any statements that would indicate that I’m a doctor, I’m a scientist or that I’m making any conclusions about the drug one way or another,”

How Clintonesque of Michelle! No, Michelle you didn’t make any conclusions about the drug. It was AFTER the debate in an interview that you said a woman approached you crying saying the HPV vaccine (which prevents 70% of cervical cancer) caused her daughter mental retardation with no scientific evidence whatsoever to back the claim!


6 posted on 09/16/2011 7:56:04 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: driftdiver

She’s got diarrhea of the mouth. It’s embarassing. Everyone can see that.


7 posted on 09/16/2011 7:56:15 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: driftdiver

Frankly I actually like to see that at least one candidate in the race has the moral courage to stand by what she says.

If anything, the so called outrage is just a means of distracting from St Rick’s cronyism.


8 posted on 09/16/2011 7:57:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Any chance I can get in on that $$? I’ll do it for $50/post.


9 posted on 09/16/2011 7:57:44 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

If she had only stuck to the forced vaccination angle, it wouldn’t have been quite as pathetic. The mental retardation link has been pretty thoroughly debunked by genetic research. Her biggest problem though was focusing on that issue instead of important “save us from Obama” issues.


10 posted on 09/16/2011 7:57:48 AM PDT by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
You should go look up http://www.drugs.com/clinical_trials/studies-gardasil-merck-s-cervical-cancer-vaccine-hpv-16-vaccine-component-gardasil-presented-7192.html ~ kind of interesting if you read the whole thing (had 24,000+ test subjects or controls).

Remembering that Merck did these studies during the same period when their internal quality control systems were in sort of FREE FALL and unable to keep fraudulent data OUT of their formal reports, I am sure you are interested in them.

I'm sure you've forgotten it but they'd hired a guy (and his peeps) to keep track of and evaluate Merck anesthetics and sedatives. He made up the data.

11 posted on 09/16/2011 7:57:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Perry admits that his handling of the original issue wasn't everything it should have been.
I think that Bachmann has mishandled this issue and has hurt herself.

But I have to say I like a politician who will not apologize for what they feel just because someone takes offense or because their original statement didn't play well in the media. Say what you mean. Mean what you say. Don't apologize.

This issue may end up sinking Bachmann, but I respect her and I would still vote for her.(I'd probably vote for Perry as well.)

12 posted on 09/16/2011 7:58:35 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: ponygirl
I have a question... since I don't have children, I don't know the answer to this... Don't they require that your children have a whole assortment of vaccinations anyway? Not that I agree with that, but how is this vaccine any different from the whole cocktail of vaccines your four-year-old is required to have before starting public school?

I think that if you're going to have your kids in public schools, then the standard set of shots (MMR, tetanus, polio, etc.) are required, because of the communicability of those diseases. I had to get them when I was in school. Not that I think children should be forced to, but at least its understandable, because of how one kid could spread measles, etc. to all the others, before they even knew they had it.

The HPV is not communicable other than by having sex, and as such, doesn't seem to present as much of an acute health risk, which makes it even less justifiable for forcible vaccination in my mind.

13 posted on 09/16/2011 7:59:57 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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And a link to that 'retardation link" where any connection between Gardasil and retardiation is thoroughly debunked?

Hope you have that one.

14 posted on 09/16/2011 8:00:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DRey

“She’s got diarrhea of the mouth. It’s embarassing. Everyone can see that.”

Yes you’re embarrassing. What do you expect her to do, when someone asks her a question perhaps she should just say “DRey thinks I shouldn’t say anything”.


15 posted on 09/16/2011 8:00:39 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Don't they require that your children have a whole assortment of vaccinations anyway?

Yes, including for Hepatitis B, a blood or body fluid born virus not spread through causal contact, commonly spread through sex.

16 posted on 09/16/2011 8:00:55 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: cripplecreek

She’s checked in to the Waffle House.


17 posted on 09/16/2011 8:01:02 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I want a Triple A president for our Triple A country)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I wonder only this, if there was an Attackwatch.com since say, 2007, including all of the attacks on Palin and other non-Obama supporters the list would be atrocously long, nasty and true. The thuggery from the “other side” must end as they paint a picture of horrid TEA party racists( and so much more)then they claim some minority status BS and play the victim. Michelle Bachman is only part and partial to have as Gingrich says, the republican ( and all other) candidates fight against each other instead of watching demoncrats and left winger socialist pukes fuel the fires on stories like this.


18 posted on 09/16/2011 8:01:16 AM PDT by Karliner ("If we were real domestic terrorists, shoot, Obama would want to pal around with us, wouldn't he?")
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> How much is Perry paying you to post these threads.

$500 a post. I'd better get crackin', daddy needs a new bass boat!

Can I get in on that action? Pharmacy school is expensive.

19 posted on 09/16/2011 8:01:55 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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