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'Stingray' Phone Tracker Fuels Constitutional Clash
WSJ ^ | 22 Sept 2011 | JENNIFER VALENTINO-DEVRIES

Posted on 09/22/2011 8:21:28 AM PDT by Palter

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To: AppyPappy
It is not always with me. We are not inseparable.

But they can handle that like they handle photo radar tickets (which only prove your CAR was speeding). They assume that since it was your phone, it was with you. Then they give you a chance to rat out whomever had your phone if it wasn't you, and there's not much you can do about it, especially since it's only a "civil" matter and not criminal. The real flaw I see in the idea is proving who was driving. If there are four people in a car and they each have a couple smartphone/tablets, etc., only the driver is liable. How are they going to figure out who to send the ticket to, and what prevents multiple tickets from being issued to multiple devices even if they all belong to the guilty party?

41 posted on 09/25/2011 7:18:30 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

I leave my phone at home quite a bit or leave it in my car. I really don’t care if the government knows where my phone is located. It’s the very nature of the system. The cell towers have to be able to figure out where you are located.


42 posted on 09/26/2011 5:36:00 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: A CA Guy

Ah, so selective adherence to the constitution is fine and dandy. Good to know where you stand.


43 posted on 09/26/2011 7:50:27 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see fascism elected at home.)
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To: Lazamataz
All you need to do is locate the suspect, beam a beam near him, power up his phone, use the Stingray software, and BOOM now you know where the suspect is!

For the case where you don't know who the guy is, only that he's the user of Phone X, then establishing that Person A was at the physical location of Phone X, and that no other persons were there, can be valuable circumstantial evidence.

44 posted on 09/26/2011 7:57:45 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: Palter

This is not new technology. In the book “Killing Pablo”, about hunting down Pablo Escobar in 1993, the author relates how they tracked Pablo by his cell phone.


45 posted on 09/26/2011 8:00:22 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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