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Are you a Mitt Romney guy or a Rick Perry guy?
Politico ^ | 9-26-2011 | Marin Cogin

Posted on 09/26/2011 9:13:37 PM PDT by smoothsailing

'Are you a Mitt Romney guy or a Rick Perry guy?'

By: Marin Cogan

September 26, 2011 11:29 PM EDT

Fewer lawmakers are endorsing a presidential candidate this year, but that hasn’t stanched the whisper primary on Capitol Hill: “Are you a Rick Perry guy or a Mitt Romney guy?”

On the House floor, in the cloakrooms and in private conversations, House Republicans are just as gossipy about the presidential contest as any dedicated primary voter, and how lawmakers are choosing sides tells the larger story of the party’s philosophical divide.

“I gravitate more toward folks who support Mitt, and we seem to have common interests,” noted Nevada Rep. Joe Heck, a freshman Republican from a classic swing district in suburban Las Vegas.

“There’s no question Perry’s more of a fighter and Romney is more of the businessman-type, a little more diplomatic,” said Texas GOP Rep. Mike McCaul. “I predict there will be more backers for Perry than Romney in our conference.”

The Perry versus Romney conversations “are happening,” said Rep. Sam Graves (R-Mo.), a Perry guy. “It’s about ‘Who are you endorsing?’ Or ‘Who do you like?’”

Romney backers like Heck, with some notable exceptions, such as Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz and Arizona Rep. Jeff Flake, tend to be from swing states or moderate districts where the primary concern is choosing a candidate who can lure independent voters and beat President Barack Obama.

Perry backers represent the movement conservatives — Southerners and tea party sympathizers looking for someone who can ignite the base and translate the 2010 GOP congressional wave into a 2012 presidential victory.

“You know it’s hard not to periodically talk about it. Everybody has coalesced behind the fact that there are two candidates; the people still on the sidelines, I think, would like to hope that it becomes a one-person race, so they can be for [the nominee],” said California Republican Rep. Darrell Issa, a Romney supporter. “But a lot of people like myself are weighing in because we think they’re both good, but there’s a better.”

Romney is leading the Hill endorsement game, with 20 endorsements to Perry’s 10. For the past year and a half, the former Massachusetts governor has courted about a dozen lawmakers — both natural allies and skeptics — for bacon and eggs confabs when he’s in town in the basement of Tortilla Coast, a Mexican restaurant near the Capitol, to talk politics and policy.

Romney also pulled in Missouri Sen. Roy Blunt, a Capitol Hill insider with deep roots in the House and close ties to both leaders and rank-and-file conservatives, to lead his Hill outreach. He’s met one on one with both GOP leaders and rank and file, and his advisers reached out to GOP leadership aides to discuss his job plans and the National Labor Relations Board.

And to hear his supporters tell it, lawmakers are rallying behind Romney because they have deep concerns about appearing on the ballot next to a candidate who once called Social Security a “Ponzi scheme” and questioned its constitutionality.

“Increasingly, over the last two weeks or so, members are making a decision about who they want to be on the ticket with. People with a high number of seniors in their districts don’t want to make their campaigning very difficult,” said Chaffetz, one of the most conservative members of Team Romney. It’s “a strong consideration of lots of people. ‘Do I want to defend the [so-called] Ponzi scheme … day after day after day?’”

Chaffetz said that lawmakers prefer Romney because he’s the “most well vetted” of the candidates. “Mitt won’t embarrass anybody,” he said.

Perry’s backers don’t share that concern. “To some extent, it is a Ponzi scheme,” said McCaul, a Perry backer. “You can criticize him, but he will tell it like it is, from his perspective.”

Perry’s backers on the Hill believe he brings new energy to the presidential field, that he speaks to conservatives who want the House GOP to go bigger in bringing spending cuts to Washington.

Rep. Mick Mulvaney perhaps best represents the Perry movement in Congress: a budget wonk from South Carolina and one of the staunchest conservatives in the freshman class — who has voted against nearly every spending deal that leadership has made with Obama. So far, Mulvaney is the only lawmaker on Capitol Hill working as an adviser for the campaign, and he says he’s been approached by lawmakers who are interested in helping the candidate on policy. He says he will “start putting out feelers to folks who want to get involved.”

Mulvaney downplayed the contrast between the candidates’ Hill helpers, saying he “won’t be the only one” working for Perry on the Hill as the election draws near. “Let’s not kid each other; the fact that I’m from South Carolina probably has something to do with this,” he said.

Meanwhile, Perry hasn’t met with congressional lawmakers since he visited their Republican retreat in Baltimore this January, and though he’s coming to Washington this week, he doesn’t have plans to sit down with members. A spokesperson for the campaign who declined to discuss endorsement strategy said that Perry “has been meeting and will continue to meet with elected leaders across the country to talk about his vision to get America working again.”

Perry supporters admit their candidate hasn’t been as aggressive in his outreach. “Romney might have a little bit better tactics, having met [with lawmakers] earlier, but you’ve got to keep in mind that you have a bunch of new guys who are looking to be relevant up here, too,” said one senior Republican aide with knowledge of the campaign operation.

One of the new guys is South Carolina Rep. Tim Scott, who hosted Perry, Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain at town hall events in his state this summer. Scott hasn’t made an endorsement but said, “Perry is obviously the guy to beat right now in South Carolina.”

“I think the big chatter is that Romney has [the] opportunity to position himself, but he doesn’t spend much time in South Carolina, so it seems he’s not as interested in the state as many would like him to be.” Scott said that Romney “does appear to be a good candidate,” but “the closer we get to the race, the less we see of him, the worse his numbers will get.”

Newt Gingrich may be the luckiest of the GOP’s second-tier presidential aspirants. Five House Republicans — three from Gingrich’s home state of Georgia and two from Texas — are loyal to him. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) has his son, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul; North Carolina Rep. Walter Jones and Michigan freshman Rep. Justin Amash. And Bachmann hasn’t received an endorsement from any of her House colleagues.

“Their following doesn’t really translate to clout in the United States Congress,” one House Republican said, stating the obvious. “[House Speaker John] Boehner doesn’t turn to Bachmann or Ron Paul for guidance.”

“A lot of members have a tendency just to hold back and let dust settle,” said Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.), a supporter of Gingrich. There are “a lot of people who are standing by, you might say.”

Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum is also struggling to find backers on Capitol Hill.

His problems were evident as he walked across Constitution Avenue last week to attend the Senate GOP’s weekly luncheon. Santorum, seeing someone he recognized, yelled across the street, “Appreciate your help, Jack?” The man yelled back: “I’m helping Newt.”

Manu Raju contributed to this report.

© 2011 POLITICO LLC


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To: smoothsailing

Definate NO for Romney. I hope NOT Perry. Still looking at Cain...possibly.


61 posted on 09/26/2011 9:46:21 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: shield
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62 posted on 09/26/2011 9:46:52 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: shield

63 posted on 09/26/2011 9:47:29 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: napscoordinator

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Even you.

I remember you for posting thoughtful and meaningful posts. In recent weeks looks like you’re gone bonkers.


65 posted on 09/26/2011 9:47:51 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: shield

let me see that :) I actually have the hardcover book


66 posted on 09/26/2011 9:48:09 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: napscoordinator

67 posted on 09/26/2011 9:52:55 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: Reagan Man

I am sorry that you feel that way but he really angered me that last debate. It is so unnecessary......he had this nomination almost in the bank and HE ALONE is screwing it up. Of course I would vote for him if he gets the nomination.....HOWEVER being insulting and an alien lover just kills me especially when FELLOW FRiends here support that behavior. We are still so early in this........He does not know how to debate at all. Even I would be more selective on trying to insult people. I would not win the nomination but I would sure as heck not call people names.....especially conservatives.


68 posted on 09/26/2011 9:53:29 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Clintonfatigued

Romney is completely and totally unacceptable, so it’s Perry by default.

The grandfather of ObamaCare CANNOT ever be POTUS.


69 posted on 09/26/2011 9:54:46 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (If not Perry, it's Romney. And if it's Romney, it's Obama.)
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To: Two Kids' Dad

“Neither Perry nor Romney.
Give me some Palin and Cain!!!
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You took the words right off of my keyboard ;)


70 posted on 09/26/2011 9:54:55 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: South40

Do I look like a Democrat?


71 posted on 09/26/2011 9:54:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: smoothsailing

I am a “Cainiac”.
He the Man!


72 posted on 09/26/2011 9:55:28 PM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: South40

I just honestly don’t understand how intelligent people as FREEPERS are can support this guy. I mean this picture is real.....HE SUPPORTS LA RAZA!!!!! They can’t see that themselves? Really? What has happened to this wonderful site. Four years ago, Perry would have been run out of town for even hinting a run for President and this site NEVER would have supported him. It is so strange. LA RAZA and FREEPERS are thrilled over that. I am so confused over this latest action.


73 posted on 09/26/2011 9:56:47 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No. But Rick Perry does.


74 posted on 09/26/2011 9:57:29 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: South40

umm whoa need more context...that’s not going to look so good


75 posted on 09/26/2011 10:01:23 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: smoothsailing

RINO vs RINO. Both losers.


76 posted on 09/26/2011 10:01:35 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: smoothsailing
I am not an open borders advocate......so neither!
I'm for smaller less intrusive government.....so neither!
I'm for keeping the government out of my health care decisions.....so neither!
I'm for standing up to China......so neither!

Just say no to RINO’s in 2012!

77 posted on 09/26/2011 10:03:00 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: napscoordinator
Four years ago, Perry would have been run out of town for even hinting a run for President and this site NEVER would have supported him.

Four years ago there was a purge of those supporting/endorsing pro-abortion, cross-dressing, anti-gun liberal freak Rudy Giuliani. Four years ago Rick Perry endorsed Rudy Giuliani. Would Slick-Rick have been welcome here when every other Giuliani supporter was not? I would hope not. Yet now, just four years later, he and his liberal record are the darling of so many with 14 months still left before the election! I will admit I don't get it.

78 posted on 09/26/2011 10:04:57 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: South40

Whoa! Is that Romniac or Perriwinkle? I honestly can’t tell.


79 posted on 09/26/2011 10:05:53 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: TruthHound

That is Slick-Rick (ACORN) Perry.


80 posted on 09/26/2011 10:07:35 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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