They just make it up as they go along
There are few folks in the EPA that those of us who actually have done real science would consider to be “peers”.
After all, look at who they’re working for.
“The data process used to arrive at the administration’s determination that greenhouse gases endanger “the public health and welfare†violated the Environmental Protection Agency’s own peer review procedure, a new report from the EPA Office of the Inspector General reveals.”
Surprise=no
GW is an ideology not a science.
The released “climate-gate” e-mails said ‘we will change the peer review process itself if we have to’.
They knew they had to! Otherwise, playing the ‘game’ by the rules would have shown them to be absolutely out on a limb unsupported by any evidence that wasn't gathered via ‘using a trick’ to ‘hide the decline’.
Nazi’s don’t follow regulations, they dictate regulations.
EPA...don’t need no stinking regulation.
“outsourcing the science to the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change”
Bad science begets bad policy. Why pay 90% bureaucrats/10%(compromised?)scientists in the EPA to parrot 99% bureaucrats/1%(definitely compromised)scientists in the UN?
Any useful activity eminating from the EPA could be done by existing forrest rangers, one guy with a stack sniffer, and smoky bear.
From this article: “Inhofe lambasted the EPA for its failure to adhere to its own rules, outsourcing the science to the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change — and refusing to conduct its own analysis of the science — in the period leading up to its final endangerment finding.”
As I’ve commented at this site several occasions we can find the UN as the basis for most every seemingly idiotic rule, regulation, or law we note creeping into our society at all levels be it our community, our State (Noteworthy by Californians), or as in this case the Federal Government. The UN is at the heart of the movement known as the “New World Order”. Agenda for the 21st Century.
The EPA has been caught in the act by the I.G. aiding, and abetting the UN, NWO, Agenda 21 to enter, and take a seat at the table, and to participate in our laws, our governance. It should be apparent to all what they are doing.
If some department, some bureau of the Federal Government existing is NOT designated specifically by the Constitution then it should belong to the States if they so wish, or should be eliminated in favor of reducing the power of the Federal Government by reducing the centralization of our government, thus returning our government to the States, and to the people, and out of the hands of devious, self serving professional politicians.
Take back our government.
Peabody Energy and others sought reconsideration of the EPA “Endangerment Findings” through the courts a while back. Not sure exactly how that played out or if it is still in the works.
We have a much greater tolerance of increased carbon gases than we do increased levels of O2. Try it. By EPA standards, Oxygen should be labeled a poison. Plants should be banned.
AGW ping?
Global Warming on Free Republic
We already live in a country that “orders us” not to go to certain places even if they pose no security risk to self.
What is happening to the so-called right to bear arms?
What has become of the Fourth and Fifth Amendment? X-ray machines at airports, camera’s everywhere...
You have a government telling you what you should eat, probably feeding your kids in school.
This government will tell you what light bulb you “will” use and they nudge you to buy certain cars.
They will define what free speech is for you, tell you that you’re not licensed to do certain jobs, they will dictate who you hire and mandate what cooking oil you use, set the rates you can charge for services, impose regulatory fees or taxes they feel appropriate on their own through internal adminstrative policy making...
Freedom in America is a hollow word thrown around by demagogue politicians and the idiotic that have no clue that they already live in a slimmed down version of the DDR. The only difference is that this is a slightly softer version of a tyranny and the fences and walls are more subtle. When in Iraq I asked people if they thought they were “free,” surprisingly they thought so. There is this miss-belief that people elsewhere feel oppressed and that they seek our version of “freedom.” Truth is, freedom is a perceptive phenomenon that we perceive through a cultural filter, and we today are not free in the sense our founding fathers perceived and intended it to be. The point is that the traditional meaning of freedom has been perverted and we are already far removed from even what the Bill of Rights were intended to prevent or protect us from.
Peer review? We don’t need no steenking peer review.
Apparently they skipped a step or two along the
way to getting the conclusions they desired.
Supposedly Carbon Glacier has retreated slightly in the decades since I was in school. When my wife and I visited it last year we didn't have any survey equipment or the records that were kept by my long retired science teacher. I couldn't tell that it had retreated at all.
I have no doubt that many of the glaciers around this part of the country have retreated. From the time I was in school until ten years ago the world was in a cyclic warming trend. Our house is located in a spot that was covered with a thousand feet of ice just 10,000 years ago, a blink of an eye in geologic time. It would be really great if these global warming stories like the one I read yesterday in the Seattle PI about glaciers retreating could be accompanied with pictures taken over a period of time, taken at the same time each year, along with survey information.
I wouldn't hold my breath while waiting for pictures and actual data... When I was in school we went to the mountain and were actually shown how to measure the glaciers ourselves... Now we good children are expected to believe what we are told because of faith not because of data or our own observations. It seems very sad to me actually. Those who question, those who want to measure, those who want to see where and how others data was collected are now attacked and ridiculed.
One should ask themselves if name calling and ridicule actually are a substitute for scientific observation and method. In a recent study from Yale University... “Professor Dan M. Kahan and his team surveyed 1540 US adults and determined that people with more education in natural sciences and mathematics tend to be more skeptical of AGW climate science.” What a surprise... these democrats who believe that a supposed consensus is a subtitute for reason and scientific method are less educated. Who'd a think it?