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To: nuconvert; Cindy; kcvl; Nachum; Fedora; ravingnutter; kabar; TigersEye
This was one of the holdups... while Afghans and americans and NATO personnel and even Pakis were getting killed by Haqqani operatives, the admin was still trying to do a John Kerry and give "peace" [concessions] another chance:

LEAD: US Afghan envoy confirms talking to Haqqani insurgents Deutsche Presse-Agentur ^ | Jan 22, 2012, 16:38 GMT Posted on 01/22/2012 6:23:51 PM PST by Nachum
As if the Taliban wasn’t bad enough. KABUL, AFGHANISTAN — The US special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan on Sunday confirmed a meeting with the Haqqani insurgent group, as signs of a dialogue between the United States and rebels continue to grow.
‘We had one meeting with Haqqani network,’ Marc Grossman told a news conference in Kabul.
His remarks come after US and the Taliban militants confirmed preliminary talks for opening an liaison office for the Taliban in the Qatari capital of Doha – increasing speculation of an end to the decade-long bloody insurgency in this war-torn country. (Excerpt) Read more at monstersandcritics.com

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To: Nachum
His remarks come after US and the Taliban militants confirmed preliminary talks for opening an liaison office for the Taliban in the Qatari capital of Doha – His remarks come after this too... Taliban video shows execution of Pakistani soldiers Winning! 11 posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:03:19 PM by TigersEye

* Marc Grossman : More on Grossman at Strata-sphere. Seems he traveled with some cohorts of John Kerry's...Rand Beers in particular. Grossman went to the same college and graduated the same year as {drum roll please} [Ambassador] Joe Wilson and also had the same job in a neighboring country. Strato-sphere also has some interesting comments about a Turkey connection. You remember Turkey…the country that balked at allowing our forces passage into northern Iraq? ---------------- Posted by ravingnutter to kabar On News/Activism 09/14/2006 7:42:11 AM PDT · 287 of 296

On July 6, 2003, Armitage asked Ford to send a copy of the memo to Powell on AF-1. Ford changed the date and addressed it to Powell, but used the same text in the memo. And per the above linked article, it was Grossman that told Libby about Plame and he was also the first one to point a finger at Libby when this broke. We know Armitage had no loyalty to Bush, but it went even further than that…from a story I found last week: Kerry Exploring Cabinet Options ...--- a freeper

15 posted on 09/08/2012 3:42:49 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa
Thanks for the ping. FWIW, here is how I summed that Grossman role up in my personal notes from my Joseph Wilson timeline:

June 2003

Week of 1-7: Washington Post’s Walter Pincus asks CIA about Wilson’s trip

State Department Bureau of Intelligence and Research head Carl Ford responds to request from Under Secretary of State Marc Grossman with memo mentioning Plame’s CIA association and role in arranging Wilson’s trip; memo is possibly shared with Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage and Secretary of State Colin Powell

BTW, any updates on this allegation mentioned in one of my old posts (unsubstantiated last I checked but I noted it as worth following up on)?

Walter Pincus, Dana Priest, and other researchers have previously noted that Plame’s front company was called Brewster-Jennings & Associates, a disclosure that has generated remarkably little follow-up from a media usually eager to expose CIA scandals. Some researchers have asserted that Robert Novak’s 2003 column compromised CIA assets linked to Brewster-Jennings. But others have called attention to a report by former FBI agent Sibel Edmonds indicating that a year earlier the FBI was already aware that Brewster-Jennings had been compromised during a conversation between Marc Grossman and Turkish lobbyists under Bureau surveillance in a corruption investigation.

17 posted on 09/08/2012 8:19:11 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: piasa

Good work. Not sure I can put all of that into a post succinctly, but I will put up the video of the executions and Oliver North’s piece.

I think we can assume that there is scullduggery in high levels. I also suspect that Grossman is only one of many operatives. It would be interesting to do some search into all the Obama personnel who came from Strato-Sphere.


18 posted on 09/08/2012 9:47:30 PM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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