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Whipping China Won't Stop the Bleeding
Townhall.com ^ | September 30, 2011 | Bill Tatro

Posted on 09/30/2011 10:21:32 AM PDT by Kaslin

It was just a matter of time before history once again repeats itself. I am referring to the joint press conference held by Senator Jeff Sessions, R. Atlanta, and Senator Charles Schumer, D. New York.

Since the President's jobs program is a non-starter for both Republicans and Democrats it was only logical that both parties needed something to not only show the electorate that jobs were paramount but also to show that both parties could and would be bi-partisan.

Who to make the whipping boy for both parties? None other than China. Then, with the blessing of Senator Harry Reed, D. Nevada, the Senate will propose a bill that will penalize our bankers for not playing ball and allowing their currency to float.

The theory goes that if the Chinese would only let their yuen trade like all other world currencies, as our dollar becomes cheaper through devaluation, their dollar (yuen) would be more expensive.

Therefore our manufactured products would be cheaper and theirs would be more expensive. Their people would buy our goods and not theirs. Our companies would be overwhelmed with buy orders and finally would have to hire 3,000,000 new workers to keep up with the demand.

In theory it sounds terrific. However, when you're clutching at straws everything in theory seems to make sense. The problem is we've seen this movie before. It was called the Smoot Hawley Tariff Act of 1930.

Twelve months after the crash of 1929, unemployment reached a peak of 9% (sound familiar?). Congress wanted to protect farmers and jobs from foreign competition.

President Hoover knew a tariff act, like that which had been proposed, was not in anyone's best interest (sounds like today's White House). However, he yielded to party pressure (also today's White House) and signed the bill.

Seventeen countries responded with their own tariff plans and the trade war was on. The result: from 1929 to 1934 overall world trade decreased by 66%. That which was supposed to be a job creator was a job destroyer as unemployment rose to 16.3% in 1931, 24.9% in 1932 and 25.1% in 1933.

The Chinese were very smart in pegging their currency to ours. Our devaluation, while hurting the rest of the world’s trade, had little effect on China. The trade came down to which country could produce at the least cost, and not the cheapest currency.

I’m surprised the rest of the world didn’t follow China’s lead. But that would be a fixed standard like ummmmm…Gold?

This bill coming up is pure politics but unfortunately may have the same effect as happened over 80 years ago.

Edmund Burke once said “Those who don’t know history are destined to repeat it.”

Never more true than now. Repeat after me.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: china; constitution; currencymanipulation; punish; schumer; traitors; usa; yuan

1 posted on 09/30/2011 10:21:35 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What we need is to lower corporate taxes to 10% do away with a lot of the government regulations and sign honest true fair trade agreements and this will solve most of our trade deficits!!!


2 posted on 09/30/2011 10:32:34 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Kaslin

Chinese banks have a lot of bad government (their government) loans on their books. The number of internal violent protests are increasing because of government corruption facilitating developer land grabs and general inflation. China will probably implode on its own. This legislation is a waste of time. Amazing that China has kept the lid on this long. China is a big consumer of luxury goods, yet the great unwashed masses scrape to live. At some point the average Chinese has to wonder what happened to “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”.


3 posted on 09/30/2011 10:37:43 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: Kaslin
Seventeen countries responded with their own tariff plans and the trade war was on. The result: from 1929 to 1934 overall world trade decreased by 66%. That which was supposed to be a job creator was a job destroyer as unemployment rose to 16.3% in 1931, 24.9% in 1932 and 25.1% in 1933.

Pure nonsense to relate the rise in depression era unemployment to Smoot-Hawley. During that same period, the four years following the stock market crash in 1929, Fed actions or inaction shrunk the money supply by 30%. And trade was a small part of the economy in those years.

Anyone with the slightest understanding of economics should be able to imagine what a 30% reduction of the money supply would cause.

The great depression and its offspring, the New Deal, could both have been avoided if the Federal Reserve had performed the task assigned to it. All the Federal Reserve had to do to avoid the Depression and the subversion of the American constitutional order was to purchase $1 billion in government securities during the 10-month period from December 1929 to October 1930. The result would have been an increase, instead of decrease, in high-powered money, and the banking crisis that began in the autumn of 1930 would not have occurred.

The Fed's "Depression" and the Birth of the New Deal

That link provides an analysis of the Great Depression based on the work on Milton Friedman and others. Smoot-Hawley is not even mentioned because it was of so little consequence in that era that it wasn't worth mentioning.

All economic activity of that era, including trade, plummeted due to the 30% reduction in the money supply and the great depression that resulted, not due any spooky trade war.

4 posted on 09/30/2011 10:44:32 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Kaslin
Does the author have any better ideas to open the Chinese market? Probably not.

No matter the industry, so long as you can get free access to your export markets and keep your own markets closed you will have enormous economy of scale advantages.

Trade advantages for Asia = lost jobs here.

5 posted on 09/30/2011 10:50:44 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan
No matter the industry, so long as you can get free access to your export markets and keep your own markets closed you will have enormous economy of scale advantages.

That's also been called the Asian model for growth, proven to work by Japan, South Korea and now China, and probably a few lesser known trading 'partners' of the US.

Gain maximum possible access to the US market, and allow minimum possible access to the home market in Asia, and economic growth results.

6 posted on 09/30/2011 11:02:12 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Kaslin

Here is a discussion of Smoot-Hawley from a different point of view:

http://www.economyincrisis.org/content/protectionism-didn%E2%80%99t-cause-great-


7 posted on 09/30/2011 11:03:53 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
You've nailed that one- they are all following the Japanese model.

I have particular ire for the Japanese. They fully "used" the protection of the United States and the access we granted them.

8 posted on 09/30/2011 11:37:16 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: All; Kaslin
There was a debate on Laura Ingraham's radio show this morning about this topic. One of the debaters, someone from Club for Growth, claimed Romney and Huntsman support the Senate's "Currency-Manipulation" bill but Perry does not.

It's unclear whether that information is accurate.

9 posted on 09/30/2011 12:22:48 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama wins reelecton; GOP will find a way to lose.)
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To: Kaslin
WSJ article on the currency-manipulation bill
10 posted on 09/30/2011 12:27:17 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama wins reelecton; GOP will find a way to lose.)
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To: Kaslin

So, a fixed currency is better than a currency that is valued by the free market. What planet is this conservative financial planner from?


11 posted on 09/30/2011 1:11:03 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: newzjunkey

Thanks for the subscription offer.


12 posted on 09/30/2011 2:55:54 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: throwback
Amazing that China has kept the lid on this long. China is a big consumer of luxury goods, yet the great unwashed masses scrape to live. At some point the average Chinese has to wonder what happened to “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”.

China can't beat us militarily, so they are trying to beat us economically on all fronts, from electronics to aviation to military hardware, and that's not even getting into all of the wheeling and dealing that China is doing with our banking and financial industries. If they can keep the lid on things and take enough American jobs, they'll be able to grow their middle class while ours shrinks.

The aviation and military hardware particularly concern me - China has made it publicly known that they plan on competing with us in both of those areas. Aviation and military contracts, even those that have systems sub-contracted out to other companies/countries (including China) are a strong part of our economy. If China can stick their nose in that door and take some of those contracts away, we're in trouble.

Those are jobs that cannot be easily replaced. China can be very patient and take a very long term view. We're probably only a few decades from seeing China being able to manufacture larger weapons systems from start to finish (such as larger ships) and selling those to other countries and beating out American contracts. Today they are working with Boeing on airliners, tomorrow they are manufacturing the entire airline. It's frightening to think about our economic future when you look at what China is doing.
13 posted on 09/30/2011 4:15:12 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Kaslin
"It was called the Smoot Hawley Tariff Act of 1930...The result: from 1929 to 1934 overall world trade decreased by 66%."

Subversive, treasonous, anti-American lies won't help. The Tariff Act wasn't passed before the summer 1930, and getting manufacturing businesses going takes time. Besides, foreign trade wasn't all that significant for the USA during those years.


Gross Domestic Product (ref. 1929 dollars in millions)

Year    GDP

1929   101,444
1930    91,513
1931    84,300
1932    70,682
1933    68,337
1934    74,609
1935    85,806
1936    95,798
1937   103,917
1938    96,670
1939   103,736
1940   112,961
1941   126,237

Source: National Bureau of Economic Research, NBER Series 08166.




Compensation from before World War I through the Great Depression

by Robert VanGiezen and Albert E. Schwenk
Bureau of Labor Statistics

John T. Dunlop and Walter Galenson, eds., Labor in the Twentieth Century (New York, Academic Press, 1978), p. 30.

Dunlop and Galenson, p. 27.

Year Unemployment rate

1923-29

3.3

1930

8.9

1931

15.9

1932

23.6

1933

24.9

1934

21.7

1935

20.1

1936

17.0

1937

14.3

1938

19.0

1939

17.2

1940

14.6

1941

9.9

1942

4.7



The United States Constitution, Article I, Section 8:
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;...To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations,..."

The Tariff Act of 1789 was the first national source of revenue for the newly formed United States.


14 posted on 09/30/2011 7:32:11 PM PDT by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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