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To: maine-iac7
Now if you want to get into what has happened to our troops and their ability to fight since this current CICINO put in his ROE that tie our soldiers behind their backs, often deny them air cover when pinned down and getting killed - ie, giving the advantage to the enemy and resulting in 63% of our troops killed in the war JUST UNDER HIS REGIME - well, that's another whole can o'worms.

The ROE is what McChrystal wanted, and Petraues supported coincident with the COIN strategy. It's disingenuous to pin them solely on the CINC. They're trying to avoid killing and upsetting the civilians we're supposed to be 'helping'. The civilians who just want us to go away, and who support the people that are fighting us for being there.

The simple fact is the people of Afghanistan don't want us there, and don't support the corrupt 'Islamic Republic' our presence props up. The increase in casualties corresponds to the increase in targets (deployed soldiers) in country.

Obama ramped up dramatically our presence, and consequently our casualties increased. When you have Americans on more hill tops, they'll draw more fire than if they weren't there.

10 posted on 10/02/2011 10:07:27 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3

So you believe McCrystal et al crafted these rules of engagement that give the Taliban the upper hand, the first shot, and denied our troops air cover - all tactics the Taliban fast took advantage of and laughed all the way.

Or did McCrystal et al get their marching orders from the CIC and had no choice but to implement them? You really think the CICINO, especially in those first heady months of “I WON!” let the generals rule the day?

The following incident is NOT an isolated one.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/09/08/75036/were-pinned-down-4-us-marines.html

the stats from April - now up to 63%

http://cnsnews.cloud.clearpathhosting.com/news/article/60-us-military-deaths-afghanistan-have-occurred-obama-was-inaugurated-2009

It’s known that this regime in DC has been talking/bribing the Taliban for over two years. The CICINO doesn’t see the Taliban as enemy - only al Queda.

Perhaps this is why our troops were pulled out of Kunar and the Korengal Valley - including Restrepo OP - and the Pesche Valley were just handed over to the Taliban? They didn’t have to fight for it. Our troops were just pulled out AND had to leave caches of weapons for the Taliban - which the Tallies greatly appreciated and vowed to use to kill more of our troops - and they did. How is that not treason?

And NOW, after the uptick of violence in Kabal and points south of the Kunar - directly due to our troops being pulled out, leaving nothing to stop the tallies from flooding over from Pakistan and having an unimpeded route beyond the Kunar.

In addition, after the Tallies have had a year and a half to get reestablished and dug in tight in the Kunar - oops. Now the big error is realized and they are sending our troops BACK into the Kunar - in less numbers that were there before, which was always undermanned. So: send less troops back in - into the valleys that the Taliban are now fully dug into - and what will be the results? (Many of the Village leaders were helping us, trusting we wouldn’t pull out and leave them at the mercy of retaliation.
We did. they will not help us again. They have a vested interest in keeping their heads.

You’ll notice the two clips below are NOT from American media. Neither does the media report on the number of KIA’s anymore. (Under Bush, the KIA’s were scrolled across the TV screens daily. Now it’s crickets.)

Restrepo - April 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WamBeYQeRvE

another cache left for the Tallies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uj6sRlzgik&feature=fvwrel

and none dare call it treason?


12 posted on 10/02/2011 12:02:36 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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