Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

In Herman Cain's Writings, a Startling Lack of Foresight
Time Magazine ^ | Oct 16, 2011 | Mark Benjamin

Posted on 10/16/2011 4:36:50 PM PDT by Clairity

Presidential hopeful Herman Cain isn't just a former CEO of Godfather’s Pizza and head of the National Restaurant Association. He was also once a prolific writer, who up until January 2011 produced a weekly opinion column published by the conservative website WorldNetDaily.

In at least one column, Cain seemed to condemn a proposal that is now a pillar of his highly touted 9-9-9 tax plan. On November 12, 2010, Cain wrote a column about rumors that Democrats would propose a consumption tax called a VAT. "The worst idea is a proposed national sales tax," Cain wrote. A 9% national sales tax is now one of Cain's three nines.

The problem, Cain argued in 2010, is that similar national sales taxes have "eventually gone up or expanded" in other countries. This argument echoes current conservative critics of 9-9-9, including Americans For Tax Reform's Grover Norquist, who claim that enacting a national consumption tax would make the government more vulnerable to revenue-hungry bureaucrats.

Cain, who has never held elected office, is now running for President on his signature 9-9-9 tax plan and CEO economic know-how. And though he's never cast a vote in Congress, there's still a substantial paper trail for his rivals to follow if they want to impede his ascent in the polls . It's right there in his columns.

(Excerpt) Read more at swampland.time.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 999; aclownposter; anotherleftistsource; cain; cain4romney; cainsownwritings; cainswritings; corruption4perry; gopbots4perry; hermancain; liars4perry; romneybots4perry; romneybotsattack; romneyperry2012; slimemagazine; taxes
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 161-173 next last
And you thought Romney is the only flip-flopper...
1 posted on 10/16/2011 4:36:54 PM PDT by Clairity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Clairity

Cain has yet to be elected to office, unlike Romney who governs like a socialist and talks like a conservative Mormon.


2 posted on 10/16/2011 4:38:33 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clairity

And what exactly has he flip-flopped on?

Or can you not tell the difference between Cain’s proposal and a VAT?


3 posted on 10/16/2011 4:40:34 PM PDT by Raymann
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SatinDoll

Let’s compare Cain’s writings with Obama’s writings prior to running for president...oh, wait...we can’t because the’re sequestered. Never mind.


4 posted on 10/16/2011 4:40:52 PM PDT by mkmensinger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Clairity

A VAT and sales tax are not the same thing. Cain has long been a Fair tax champion.

Next....


5 posted on 10/16/2011 4:41:12 PM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clairity
The paper trail Obama left, prior to taking the Presidency, contains no examples of lack of foresight.

Oh, wait a minute. What's that you say? Obama left zero paper trail, prior to taking the Presidency.
6 posted on 10/16/2011 4:41:20 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clairity

Time Magazine, that paragon of Conservative thought.


7 posted on 10/16/2011 4:41:50 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clairity

Oh no, Time magazine hates Cain. Guess I can’t vote for him now...!

(This just makes me like him MORE)


8 posted on 10/16/2011 4:42:12 PM PDT by gaijin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clairity
If one wonders if a sales tax can be raised you have to look no further than your local sales tax. Where I live there isn't any silly expenditure for which the liberals can't think another .25% on the sales tax is the solution.

The flip side is that there is a huge difference between a VAT and a retail sales tax.

9 posted on 10/16/2011 4:42:24 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clairity
Ah, the Romneybot is busy today, doing what liberals are so good at, trashing their opposition.

I guess that is all you can do when your guy has nothing to run on.

10 posted on 10/16/2011 4:43:26 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clairity

Spin, Perrywinkles, spin. Did Herman Cain give illegal aliens preference over citizens?


11 posted on 10/16/2011 4:43:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Better to ask forgiveness than permission.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fieldmarshaldj
I'm guessing the Dems were not proposing to REDUCE the personal and business income tax to 9% at the same time either. Context seems lost on some people...
12 posted on 10/16/2011 4:44:06 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( The Prudential Governor... Have you bought your piece of the Rick)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Clairity
And you thought Romney is the only flip-flopper...

No, but you are selling your integrity in an attempt to bloody up Cain!

13 posted on 10/16/2011 4:45:05 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I like the content of his character)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Raymann

Cain: “The worst idea is a proposed national sales tax, which is a disguised VAT (value added tax) on top of everything we already pay in federal taxes.”

Cain is noting that the proposed tax is a national sales tax, not a VAT, but then tries to call it a disguised VAT. People on here get upset when posters call Cain’s proposal a VAT. Apparently, Cain also thinks the two are fairly similar although they are not.

So yes, he’s flip flopping.


14 posted on 10/16/2011 4:45:05 PM PDT by jimnm
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Clairity
A sales tax is on the final product, paid by the consumer. A VAT is a totally different animal, paid by each vendor responsible for the production. It ends up being calculated into the price at each step and makes the product more expensive for the consumer.

They're not even close to being the same.

15 posted on 10/16/2011 4:45:20 PM PDT by edpc (Former Normalcy Bias Victim)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clairity

Nice try but the Democrats were proposing a sales tax on top of all the other taxes already in place. Cain’s plan is to completely replace the existing 70,000+ page tax code with three very simple and transparent taxes that will be very difficult to raise because the people will immediately notice.


16 posted on 10/16/2011 4:45:20 PM PDT by SamAdams76
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Raymann

Just an insight to the true Clarity. Sounds more like a Democrap mole troublemaker who can offer no redeeming positive values for Romney but sure has a bucket load of negativity for Cain. Typical Alinski tactics of divide and conquer.

A Democrat would not care to understand the difference between a “replacement” sales tax and a VAT.


17 posted on 10/16/2011 4:45:48 PM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Clairity
"The worst idea is a proposed national sales tax," Cain wrote. A 9% national sales tax is now one of Cain's three nines.

LOL! You just cain't make this stuff up. Wait a minute. Cain can. Cain is constantly making stuff up and goes along, pulling it out of his nether regions so the Cainiacs can praise him for his common sense and striaght talk.

So he was against the sales tax before he was for it. He was for electrocuting Mexicans at the border before he decided it was a joke. He was for Romney and praised him as a conservative before he was against Romney and decided he was a liberal.

To be fair, he HAS been completely consistent in his praise for Alan Greenspan and his support of TARP.

If this gig doesn't work out for him, he could always emigrate to Ubeki beki beki stan stan.

18 posted on 10/16/2011 4:46:51 PM PDT by behzinlea (Perry is the adult in the race. Cain is the prepubescent class clown.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clairity
In at least one column, Cain seemed to condemn a proposal that is now a pillar of his highly touted 9-9-9 tax plan. On November 12, 2010, Cain wrote a column about rumors that Democrats would propose a consumption tax called a VAT. "The worst idea is a proposed national sales tax," Cain wrote. A 9% national sales tax is now one of Cain's three nines.

Oh, I am supposed to trust some assclown from TIME magazine? I'm bettin' Cain was making the point a VAT should not be added to the current tax code.

What I am certain about is that the TIME magazine hack (former employer of Hussein's spokesdork Carney) isn't quoting things IN CONTEXT....because of course we all know the TIME HACK is probably a racist who hates black people...unless their name is Hussein.

19 posted on 10/16/2011 4:47:40 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clairity

A VAT is not a retail sales tax.

You know the difference.

Why are you putting out false information?


20 posted on 10/16/2011 4:47:58 PM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 161-173 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson