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1 posted on 10/21/2011 1:13:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Think of the bureaucracy needed to monitor, administer, decide who gets to be, decide what the criteria is for these “zones” whose purpose will be to encourage your job to move to places like Detroit.

insane.

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The 999/909 plan should die, just on the idea of a new federal tax monstrosity alone.

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If Cain says he’d sign a flat tax from Congress, then he’d be the perfect candidate.


2 posted on 10/21/2011 1:21:02 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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He’s lost me. Everyone in this country should have a stake in the game, even if it’s only $10.00 a year.


3 posted on 10/21/2011 1:21:02 PM PDT by Boston Tea Party
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Well, Cain is sure trying hard to lose my confidence in him and his capitulation.

Yes; caving to the pressure of losing the "poor" vote, he is tap-dancing. I recognize that low income makes it tough to survive, but, didn't he also say that "if you don't like being low income, look in the mirror"? (or words to that effect)

4th Generation Welfare recipients are NOT gonna vote anything but (D) anyway, and amending his ideas to patronize them by allowing them to afford themselves of existence and benefits of OTHERS is NOT a goo plan at all.

There is NO Conservative Candidate left in the race for the Republicans, for me.

4 posted on 10/21/2011 1:23:31 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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So what happens when you start to earn a few dollars over the poverty level, do just those additional dollars get taxed, or do suddenly get a whammy of a tax on the whole thing?

And if you don’t get a whammy of a tax on the whole thing, does that mean the first poverty-level of income is exempt from the 9% for everyone?

In both cases, I do believe his impact analyses have to be changed to reflect this, no?


5 posted on 10/21/2011 1:25:19 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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BAD Decision.
The poor need some “skin in the game.” They need to pay their fair share.


6 posted on 10/21/2011 1:26:49 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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Math man has added a 9. Do the math.

9,9-9,9


12 posted on 10/21/2011 1:44:03 PM PDT by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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You just lost me, Herman. I ain’t voting to let bums off of the hook, as usual.


13 posted on 10/21/2011 1:49:14 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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"Well I said I'm trav'ling on the one after 909 I said move over honey I'm travelling on that line I said move over once, move over twice Come on baby don't be cold as ice."

Beatles "Let it Be". "One After 909". Circa 1970 album./p>

14 posted on 10/21/2011 1:54:36 PM PDT by dancusa (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. W. Churchill)
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Yep the first $20K is not taxed....always has been that way so why the surprise?


15 posted on 10/21/2011 1:55:33 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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I’ve been saying this from day one, that the 47% who pay no fed income tax would never give up that status. So much for, “skin in the game”.

I’ll still vote for Cain.


21 posted on 10/21/2011 2:00:07 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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Also the same “poor” will get some sort of “rebate” or “refund” on the 9% sales tax. Skin in the game? HAH!


24 posted on 10/21/2011 2:01:47 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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Herman just lost me.

What I liked about 999 was that it got that 47% who currently pay NO income tax to at least start shelling out some. Even if it’s a measly 9%, it re-engages them with some skin in the game.


27 posted on 10/21/2011 2:12:20 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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See? Even Herman Cain is already providing adaptation of his sales tax based on purchaser and/or location. So it begins...


28 posted on 10/21/2011 2:12:35 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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Oh brother, That’s the problem!

The lower income levels don’t have any “skin in the game” and don’t understand/care if taxes go up or down. They just want more freebies. They must pay something, even if it’s a $1.00 a week.


32 posted on 10/21/2011 2:21:28 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland ( Obama, President of the Democrats and Joe Biden, VP are the top morons of the DNC.)
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After weeks of repeating 9-9-9 and, in the process, making his bold and original tax reform plan common knowledge, Herman Cain today altered his slogan:

I don't think so.

Cain simply made clear that those under a certain income level would end up paying no income tax. So for them the plan would be 909.

Many have argued that 999 could never pass because it "hurts the poor" and "makes poor people pay income taxes."

Now what will they argue?

36 posted on 10/21/2011 2:28:15 PM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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Looks like Herman is tweaking at least two major issues today. Taxes and abortion.

First it was 999. Now its 909, or 999/909! LOL What’s next week?

Enough already, Herman. Go with the flat tax. The fair tax is a dog.


43 posted on 10/21/2011 2:40:29 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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This 9-9-9 thing has got to go. Any tax system which can be tweaked and generally f***ed around with will in short order expand beyond reason.

10% flat tax...AT MOST, with no witholding.


44 posted on 10/21/2011 2:47:50 PM PDT by dinodino
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Brother Herman needs to stop this thinking out loud stuff.
He sounds like a female, changing his mind a couple of times a day... at least.


49 posted on 10/21/2011 2:55:49 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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BTW, while I don’t think it’s any surprise that there would be an income exclusion or standard deduction for an amount at or below the poverty level, if people want to “blame” someone for this, they ought to considering blaming Michele Bachmann.

While I appreciate all Bachmann has done for the conservative movement, her pathetic wailing that 999 with “hurt the poor the most” had to not only get on Cain’s last nerve (as he said in an interview), but it had to make conservatives seriously trying to get major tax reform passed shake their heads and think:

“Good grief. If we’re going to end up taking such potshots from people such as Bachmann on the Right, who supposedly is really in sync with the Tea Party, we have no choice but to parlay to fend off her criticism that only energizes the Left.”

Really: when you have one of the candidates running as an ultra-conservative start wailing Lefty talking points — this “hurts the poor the most”??, with no understanding of how the poor and ALL of us are helped by 999 — what are you supposed to do? Let that stand, and let Bachmann’s ill-advised and ill-founded debate zingers get entrenched and sink the entire effort?

Thanks, Michele. NOT.


50 posted on 10/21/2011 2:59:06 PM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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This would be a disincentive to work. Bummer.


51 posted on 10/21/2011 3:06:43 PM PDT by goseminoles
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