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To: Toddsterpatriot

Very interesting reply.

Guess I must be such an idiot, it’s a wonder how I might climb into my shoes each day.

Thinking high risk; given derivatives, by nature and law, lack transparency, are complex, and loaded with risk. Hence the greater risk, the great opportunity for return upon investment. Credit markets routinely under price the risk.

So by my thinking, of course as a total idiot; derivatives mask third party credit risk, and unjustly enrich derivative counterparties selling such trash.

Crony capitalist financial reforms only reinforced special protection for derivative bundlers. Less disclosure. Greater access to sticking taxpayers with the bill when they make a bad risk assessment call. Of course, all from an idiot’s standpoint.

Guess math comes very easy because I’m an idiot. 312 million US residents. $77 Trillion worthless junk dumped on the marketplace if BOA fails. Quarter million dollar loss amortized per US resident. FDIC insures up to $250,000 per account. Overall median income for all 155 million persons over the age of 15 who worked with earnings in 2005 (last available statistics) was $28,567.

With all the honest snake oil salesmen out of work these days, seems they moved to derivative markets.

Wanna buy some derivatives? For $100 million in physical gold today, I’ll trade you $1 billion in financial instruments, payable in 2041.


52 posted on 10/24/2011 6:29:25 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican
Thinking high risk; given derivatives, by nature and law, lack transparency, are complex, and loaded with risk.

Many plain vanilla, interest rate swaps (the majority of all derivatives), are low risk and very simple.

So by my thinking, of course as a total idiot; derivatives mask third party credit risk

Being OTC, as opposed to exchange traded, they make it difficult to measure firm risk.

Guess math comes very easy because I’m an idiot. 312 million US residents. $77 Trillion worthless junk

Nothing was worth $77 trillion.

53 posted on 10/24/2011 7:45:57 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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