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To: DManA; Talisker
Reading this I think it is completely fair to say they speak for the Vatican on these matters. They were given this authority by two Popes.

It may be fair. It's just not accurate. Nobody speaks for the Vatican on these matters any more than anyone else. Two Cardinals can (and do) hold press conferences on different days promoting opposite points of view.

Ironically, you haven't gotten your mind around the fact that, when you go outside of faith and morals, the Vatican is more of a philosophical free-for-all than any organization or corporation we Americans are used to. They don't speak for the Vatican on these subjects; they are allowed to speak by the Vatican. The Vatican doesn't back up what they say, or deride it. (You or I would deride it.)

You may find it infuriating. I think Justice & Peace is a waste of oxygen. But it is talk that is not binding on anyone with respect to his salvation. Just opinions. I agree that a lot of Marxist assumptions come out of these commissions, but that's Europe for you. Younger priests are much more conservative these days.

The story that ran on Neuters was what they wish it was. They do this sort of thing all the time. Drudge knows a good headline when he sees it, but the Pope said no such thing; you'll see more about that in the next day or two.

Talisker:

Including the mega-billions in the Vatican Bank and its controlling links with The City and Wall Street, which should not in any way be considered "authoritative."

Don't know what you're smokin', dude, but it's too strong.

35 posted on 10/24/2011 5:17:26 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: SamuraiScot

Don’t understand why catholics are always claiming they are “victims” when their leadership clearly and without question have established ‘a document’ by those the Vatican appoints to speak on it’s behalf, and make it public for it’s members to see.

Then there’s a mad rush to say that it’s not true...and the gibberish and confoggled attempts to protect themselves from the truth begins.

It isn’t people are catholic bashing, though they’d like us all to believe that, it’s what the leadership is doing and stating that people are objecting to.....it’s really not as confusing as it most assuredly will become.


44 posted on 10/24/2011 8:30:36 PM PDT by caww
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To: SamuraiScot

Ok, just ignore anything that comes out of Rome. I can do that.


46 posted on 10/24/2011 9:26:46 PM PDT by DManA
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