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Revealed: Cain describes hand gesture that led to harassment claim
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/31/revealed-cain-describes-hand-gesture-that-led-to-harassment-claim-update-small-settlement-says-cain/ ^

Posted on 10/31/2011 5:38:06 PM PDT by chessplayer

"Cain told van Susteren that he remembered one woman who was a writer in the Association’s communications department. “I can’t even remember her name, but I do remember the formal allegation she made in terms of sexual harassment,” Cain said. “I turned it over to my general counsel and one of the ladies that worked for me, the woman in charge of human resources. They did investigate…and it was found to be baseless.”

"Van Susteren asked Cain how often he saw the woman. “I might see her in the office because her office was on the same floor as my office,” Cain said. Van Susteren asked whether the woman traveled with Cain, who spent a lot of time on the road speaking to restaurant associations around the country. “No, never,” Cain said…"

Van Susteren asked what Cain did that led to the accusation. There were reportedly more than one accusations in the complaint, but Cain said he recalled just one incident. “She was in my office one day, and I made a gesture saying — and I was standing close to her — and I made a gesture saying you are the same height as my wife. And I brought my hand up to my chin saying, ‘My wife comes up to my chin.’” At that point, Cain gestured with his flattened palm near his chin. “And that was put in there [the complaint] as something that made her uncomfortable,” Cain said, “something that was in the sexual harassment charge.”


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KEYWORDS: bearingfalsewitness; cain; changethenarrative; coolunderfire; desperation; liberalsmears; nonissue; stinksofmitt; stopcainmovement; theyfearhim
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No surprise, but all the libs are saying Republicans are behind this smear campaign.
1 posted on 10/31/2011 5:38:09 PM PDT by chessplayer
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2 posted on 10/31/2011 5:39:46 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: chessplayer

They could be telling the truth this time.


3 posted on 10/31/2011 5:41:08 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: chessplayer
No surprise, but all the libs are saying Republicans are behind this smear campaign.

LOL. DENIAL.

4 posted on 10/31/2011 5:41:08 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: chessplayer
Tomorrow's NY Times headline:

Cain Mimics Hand Job Before Onlooking Victim


5 posted on 10/31/2011 5:41:11 PM PDT by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: SuzyQue
They could be telling the truth this time.

Could be, but you already have liberal involvement when Politico is reporting this garbage.

6 posted on 10/31/2011 5:43:23 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: Hoodat

Probably more like: Cain involved with Larry Sinclair.


7 posted on 10/31/2011 5:44:44 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: Hoodat
Boy-- you just nailed that one.
8 posted on 10/31/2011 5:45:32 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: chessplayer

Isn’t his wife fairly short?


9 posted on 10/31/2011 5:48:13 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Hoodat

Well, in todays world holding the door for a woman can be considered sexual harassment, so I guess Cain comparing that womans height to his wifes can also be considered sexual harassment.


10 posted on 10/31/2011 5:52:36 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; dixiechick2000

UNSHOPPED PRESIDENT GAGA FLASHING FAVORITE HAND GESTURE

11 posted on 10/31/2011 5:58:30 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: chessplayer
So he's not a sexist... he's a heightist.

Probably likes that "short people got no reason to live" song, too. These kind of things are what Obama used to take out his rivals in Illinois.

12 posted on 10/31/2011 5:58:53 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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As a government employee back in the 90’s, I was required to take the obligatory sexual harassment class. To my shock and disgust, there was no definition of sexual harassment other than it meaning however the “victim” chose to define it. If you made eye contact with anyone, if you innocently complimented someone on their outfit, if you touched their arm when gesturing, if you opened a door for someone, if you accidentally bumped into someone, they could define it as sexual harassment. It mattered not one bit what your intentions were. The ONLY thing that mattered was the other person’s perception. The standards were such that virtually any employee could be accused of sexual harassment at any given time. And they would be found guilty because there was no way to defend oneself against the charge.


13 posted on 10/31/2011 6:00:22 PM PDT by Nevadan
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Well, as Mr. Cain reported, it wasn’t.

But the point is, anyone in a “protected class” (and yes, that’s what it’s called in the law) can make an allegation. And that’s all there is to this story. There are no standards, not thresholds, or anything in the law. Complaints have to be investigated and then a judgement made as to whether the claim rose to the level of conduct that is addressed by the law. It’s a hell of a system.

If I were black, queer, or female - I would have rights under EEOC law that as a straight white male, I do not.

Tell me that’s “right”....


14 posted on 10/31/2011 6:00:25 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: SuzyQue

“They could be telling the truth this time.”


Oh, good grief. Yeah, libs would never stoop to something like that,,,only Republicans would, right? Ever occur to you “the Republicans are behind this” conspiracy believers that if a Republican was behind this, that Politico would have fingered that Republicans name in blazing headlines?


15 posted on 10/31/2011 6:03:41 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: SuzyQue

Where is the fallen strand of hair and the cola can?


16 posted on 10/31/2011 6:06:27 PM PDT by ptsal
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To: chessplayer

Some things never change. At one place I worked twenty years ago there was one woman who would file a sexual harassmnet in the workplace complaint if a man said “good morning” to her.


17 posted on 10/31/2011 6:10:06 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: Nevadan
As a government employee back in the 90’s, I was required to take the obligatory sexual harassment class. To my shock and disgust, there was no definition of sexual harassment other than it meaning however the “victim” chose to define it. If you made eye contact with anyone, if you innocently complimented someone on their outfit, if you touched their arm when gesturing, if you opened a door for someone, if you accidentally bumped into someone, they could define it as sexual harassment. It mattered not one bit what your intentions were. The ONLY thing that mattered was the other person’s perception.

I was forced to attend the same type class. They actually instructed us on how to avert our eyes when walking past another employee. As you said, disgusting.

18 posted on 10/31/2011 6:11:00 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Nevadan

I believe it. Make eye contact with a woman in a grocery store today and you might have the cops knocking on your door an hour later. And holding doors for women? I stopped doing that years ago. I just let it slam shut in their faces behind me, now. It’s just the way things are, now.


19 posted on 10/31/2011 6:12:38 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Next I expect “Mr. Cain, when did you stop beating your wife?”


20 posted on 10/31/2011 6:12:59 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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