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To: smoothsailing

Interesting read and something that should be considered, but won’t be.

A religious-type fervor has developed on FR lately, the object of the worship being Cain.

No criticism of him can be accepted or even discussed.

I just read, but did not participate in, the Sunday Morning Talk show thread and quite a few people were vowing to write in or not vote if their candidate wasn’t selected.

It’s scary.


5 posted on 11/06/2011 11:41:35 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura
It’s scary.

Unbunch your panties. Happens every election.

10 posted on 11/06/2011 11:43:54 AM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: altura

I’m not saying foreign policy isn’t important. But Obama had no foreign policy experience either when he ran for President. No one is born with it. I’m sure a new President will have good people to advise him. I don’t see what’s the big deal about it.


13 posted on 11/06/2011 11:44:39 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: altura

I am beginning to think that Perrywinkes define “religious like fervor” - as anyone who isn’t particularly enthused by being called “heartless” by a RINO.

Just saying.

Perrywinkes, used to regularly say the exact same think about Palin supporters. That we “went on Perry threads to disrupt”. Etc.

Word for word. The talking points remain on the same fax, only the candidate name is changed.

So did all the Palin supporters change religions?

Or are they simply realizing there is someone else on the scene, who believes as they do?

Now. Here we are on a Cain thread. A Cain thread.

Just saying.

Who is disrupting?


26 posted on 11/06/2011 11:50:16 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: altura
A religious-type fervor has developed on FR lately, the object of the worship being Cain.

Concern trolls like you love to paint the motivation of the other side as something cultish. Trust me, I've seen plenty of that on the Perry side as well, running around foolishly claiming that Perry is the only one who can beat Romney. Well, guess what? Cain has doubled Romney in the most recent Iowa poll and has FIVE TIMES the support of Perry.

No criticism of him can be accepted or even discussed.

And another thing the concern trolls like to do is to pretend that they can't criticize a candidate. And that is pure horsecrap and you know it. You just don't like the retorts that get properly thrown right back in your face when you try to push liberal hatchet jobs against Cain.

Try this - working on your candidate to undo some of the positions that sunk him into single digits, instead of bashing the guy who is actually putting a hurt on Romney.

39 posted on 11/06/2011 12:00:02 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: altura
Love the passive aggressive nature the Perry supporters all display around here. They recklessly throw punches around directed at every other candidate in the race for weeks then whine hysterically when people start punching back

You were all warned your tactics were counter productive in Sept but you decided this personal attack style political campaign was the way to go. Have sown the wind, don't cry now that you have reaped the whirl wind.

There is a reason your candidate is polling in single digits.

51 posted on 11/06/2011 12:09:56 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: altura
A religious-type fervor has developed on FR lately, the object of the worship being Cain.

Oh come on, it's primary time. Some of us like Cain, some of us like Perry, some of us have sadly given up on Satorum, and some still like Romney.

We're grownups here and you comment is extremely insulting to Freepers.

Honestly, you should be ashamed of that comment. It's not your first primary on Free Republic.

Get over yourself.

52 posted on 11/06/2011 12:10:41 PM PST by Jean S
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To: altura

If you are looking for the smartest one in the room, it won’t be Rick Perry.


67 posted on 11/06/2011 12:25:43 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: altura
I'm entirely comfortable with an ardent American grandfather looking out for the best interests of his family and mine!

Approaching foreign policy with a firm grasp of American history, expecially the mistakes in foreign policy, combined with a solid set of core values and right principles is much more palatable than trusting a micro-managing imbecile like Jimmy Carter or Barack Obama.

A President Herman Cain will surround himself with conservative advisors like John Bolton.

Cain's Peace through Strength and Clarity position is precisely what will keep us safe and well-informed of world problems.

85 posted on 11/06/2011 1:01:26 PM PST by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: altura

You are simply not permitted to critique a candidate who is advantaged by having virtually no record whatsoever. It’s supposed to be a virtue, and therefore considered a “plus”
that along with having no record, a candidate like that would have no real clue. That being said, Cain has a much broader grasp and is far more articulate about his fuzzing up what he doesn’t know than Palin ever was, but even she had 18 mos as a governor and was seen willing to buck the establishment. I don’t follow Cain closely, but so far, has he uttered even a peep against Romney, or the establishment, or the corruption involved with all these establishment comprommises? Smoke and mirrors is already sitting in the White House with no record, but boy was he a great speaker in the beginning. What is the difference between community organizing and motivational speaking anyway, really?

I prefer the wrecking ball Rick announced this week. We need one and we need him. IMHO.


86 posted on 11/06/2011 1:02:35 PM PST by RitaOK (Texas. Exhibit A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: altura

I agree with you altura. The article was thoughfully written and most of all, it is accurate.


95 posted on 11/06/2011 1:15:17 PM PST by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: altura

on that I do agree with you altura. We are not supposed to question or ask on Cain without being called “smear bots” NOW, watching the debates last night he came across well and had some good ideas..I still do NOT like the 999 plan and have other issues I still have not resolved. August is a long way off...when we elect our nominee...I want whoever we select to be well vetted. btw...we are voting this tues here on whether or not to raise our county taxes....we really are taxed enough already.


99 posted on 11/06/2011 1:17:41 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: altura

The problem is that what would he do is irrelevant? The reason why people defend Cain here is because of the attempt to hold him to standards none of the others are. When has Romney been asked twenty questions about what he would do in the event of Iranian aggression? The truth is that no one can estimate exactly what they’d do but certainly I do know that Cain would like GW Bush surround himself with the best advisors on foreign policy which is what is far more important. None of what Bush or Obama offerred on the campaign trail ended up in their ultimate foreign policy. What people here are tired of is the game. Sure Cain needs to beef himself up and talk in more detail on foreign policy but I’ve read Cain’s writing on China and other foreign policy issues and he has been consistently credible. I’m not worried about religious fervor, what I’m worried about is the campaign to stamp one of the least consistent candidates as the ‘inevitable’ candidate. That people love what Herman Cain stands for should not be a surprise or worry. People love candidates who love America shamelessly and have lived the American dream. Cain has risen from poverty to success. He is no idiot and those that act as though all of his demonstrated intelligence is to be dismissed because of a bad interview or two while other candidates bad records are to be ignored and everything they release in position papers is to be considered gold? Come on. Quit playing and accepting the mind games because you have to be smarter than that.

Washington is filled to the brim with talkers who can tell you the premutations of what should or not be done in all kinds of situations and those same people have nearly destoryed this country and have overextended us throughout the world with blank check militarism. Excuse us all if we DO NOT accept the false premises and rules of those who have in their lack of wisdom brought America to the brink of disolution.


117 posted on 11/06/2011 1:31:13 PM PST by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: altura

“Religious type fervor”? That’s bulshite. Cain is an appealing candidate. He is not running as the candidate from Jeopardy.


121 posted on 11/06/2011 1:35:12 PM PST by Melchior
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To: altura
A religious-type fervor has developed on FR lately, the object of the worship being Cain. No criticism of him can be accepted or even discussed.

You're telling me. I was piled on last night, on the Cain-Gingrich debate thread, for lack of Cainolatry. Even got poisonous freepmail. The worshippers are quick to commit personal attacks and then accuse the target of personal attack, simply for not loving their candidate. Well I don't love him. Moreover, some of his supporters here do him no credit. The incivility is more disappointing than the irrationality; I can overlook projection and fallacious argument, but puerile insults and malice are harder to take from fellow conservatives. (Until I adjusted the ping page to make replies invisible. Hurray for white font! ;) )

126 posted on 11/06/2011 1:41:12 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: altura
Senility kicking in?

This thread is not about a criticism, but about irrelevant "Gotcha!" journalism.

Can't tell the difference?

187 posted on 11/06/2011 4:35:45 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: altura

They are worshiping a drunk candidate in New Hampshire who recently found his way out of a wet paper bag. Not!


189 posted on 11/06/2011 4:38:27 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: altura
Interesting read and something that should be considered, but won’t be. A religious-type fervor has developed on FR lately, the object of the worship being Cain. No criticism of him can be accepted or even discussed.

Some posters don't like criticisms of Perry. Some posters don't like criticisms of Cain.

SFW!

BTW, look at your own post. It's not that you are offering reasoned criticism of Cain. Instead you have come on to a thread trashing unnamed posters without provocation.

208 posted on 11/06/2011 8:38:08 PM PST by FreeReign
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