Posted on 12/02/2011 1:50:20 PM PST by libertarian neocon
The folks at Club for Growth has white papers on all the GOP candidates summarizing their public records and does a pretty objective job. Looking at Newt's I really was struck by how conservative Newt's actual voting record was (which of course was mischaracterized by Jennifer Rubin, who I think must have been offered a post in a Romney administration. How else do you explain her going full spittle in support of Romney and anti-Newt?)., with most of the worrisome aspects of his record coming from speeches AFTER he left public office. This is pretty much the exact opposite of Romney, who has a very questionable record from his limited time in elected office, with most of his conservatism coming from campaign speeches. Anyway, let's look at Newt's actual record:
Is his record perfect? Nope. Not even close. But the point is that on the big issues, he voted Conservative and helped champion balanced budgets and tax reform. Focusing on that actual voting record really makes me more comfortable with him. Especially when his main opponent is someone whose main accomplishment is a massive government healthcare program.
Noob troll alert, c’mon people, wake up!
lol, why did you leave off Bachmann? Hopefully is was just a slight oversight because she has a 100% lifetime rating.
http://www.conservative.org/ratings/2008house.htm
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lol, why did you leave off Bachmann? Hopefully is was just a slight oversight because she has a 100% lifetime rating.
http://www.conservative.org/ratings/2008house.htm
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Probably on 7-28-06 someone gave you a "Noob troll alert".
Actions speak louder than words.
Looks like an anti-Newter has sullied your keywords.
I used the last year Newt, Paul and Santorum were all serving, which was 1998. It is more apples to apples that way and it undercuts the lies that Newt is not as conservative as the other two.
I like Bachmann as a spokesmodel for conservatism, but she is not presidential timber - and her resume does not indicate she has ever led a significant organization.
Excellent research by both of you. There’s no doubt that Gingrich is a conservative and I think he’s improved with age. I know I have. He’s also authored 23 books so it’s easy to find quotes to cherry pick if one is so inclined, but “voting records of major accomplishments” are there for all to see.
I’ve read the thread and know why you didn’t include Michele Bachmann in your comparison.
Excellent research by both of you. There’s no doubt that Gingrich is a conservative and I think he’s improved with age. I know I have. He’s also authored 23 books so it’s easy to find quotes to cherry pick if one is so inclined, but “voting records of major accomplishments” are there for all to see.
I’ve read the thread and know why you didn’t include Michele Bachmann in your comparison.
Excellent research by both of you. There’s no doubt that Gingrich is a conservative and I think he’s improved with age. I know I have. He’s also authored 23 books so it’s easy to find quotes to cherry pick if one is so inclined, but “voting records of major accomplishments” are there for all to see.
I’ve read the thread and know why you didn’t include Michele Bachmann in your comparison.
Why is he a troll?
I used the last year Newt, Paul and Santorum were all serving, which was 1998. It is more apples to apples that way and it undercuts the lies that Newt is not as conservative as the other two.
I like Bachmann as a spokesmodel for conservatism, but she is not presidential timber - and her resume does not indicate she has ever led a significant organization.
Breaking News???
“it undercuts the lies that Newt is not as conservative as the other two”
No it doesn’t.
I hope you are aware that the speaker only votes when there’s a tie.
And in that case it would have been absurd for a republican speaker to side with the dems.
Look at their accomplishments. Newt allied himself with Ronald Reagan to build the Reagan Coalition, the Religious Right, and the Republican majority (together the Reagan Revolution) which directly led the downfall of the Soviet Union, the Contract with America, government reforms, less government, tax cuts, a balanced budget, and the great, long-standing Reagan economy.
Romney, on the other hand, vehemently denied Ronald Reagan and aligned himself with Ted Kennedy and the left. Romney accomplished installing liberal big government programs, defended and promoted Roe v Wade and legalized abortion as “settled law,” advocated and implemented RomneyCare with its liberty killing government mandates against formerly free citizens and its taxpayer funded or subsidized and mandated abortion procedures. He ran and governed to the left of Ted Kennedy on the “gay agenda” resulting in gay marriage in Massachusetts. He appointed liberal judges and liberal appointees throughout his government. Under his “leadership” conservatism and the Republican party was all but destroyed in Massachusetts.
Romney is one evil liberal progressive. No way in hell will MittBots be allowed to support this abortionist, big government, socialist scumbag on FR!
Guess my message isn’t clear enough. I have to keep repeating it and zotting would be MittBots.
79 posted on Sat Dec 03 2011 19:59:37 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time) by Jim Robinson
You mean you don’t think liberal blogs belong in Breaking News?
/s
“Breaking News???”
Yep, it has just been discovered that Newt voted conservative at least once every three years.
I’ve watched good, bedrock conservatives go soft over the years and I’ve always been struck by the fact that it usually happens when those conservatives start to fall prey to the media, and usually after being assaulted by the media.
For some strange reason, they think the media will “like” them if they soften their speech or positions, “just a little” at first, or backtrack “just a little” on a tiny and even an insignificant issue.
Once a conservative shows that weakness, s/he is almost a goner.
I can give you Eric Cantor for one example. He and his wife like to make the Beltway cocktail scene, but as little as 4 years ago, he was a fighter and even mentioned as McCain’s VP. Now he’s one of the “deal makers” and more establishment than fighter. He showed weakness during several TV interviews with the “media.”
A more recent example is Herman Cain and his interview with Bob Sheiffer who laid into him for the you-tube ad by Cain’s campaign manager smoking a cig. Sheiffer berated Cain for the ad showing him smiling at the end of the ad, because his manager was smoking! Oh the horrors! Cain and Sheiffer are cancer survivors and what would children think!
Sheiffer forced Cain into denouncing the ad (so to speak) and to what avail? Scheiffer had Cain on the defense about a stupid ad!!
I’ve gone off track a bit, but my point is that I think Gingrich will be A-OK so long as the media and demonic-rats hate him and he has both to fight.
The worry will come if he gets into the position of trying to court the demonic-rats and the media.
Actually it didn't happen....I've only been called a troll by a Paul bot and that was after I was well established here.
Since then I've developed a keen nose, though I've been wrong once or twice.....ask non sequitur and jamses777 ;)
Actually it didn't happen....I've only been called a troll by a Paul bot and that was after I was well established here.
Since then I've developed a keen nose, though I've been wrong once or twice.....ask non sequitur and jamses777 ;)
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