Are we better off dead than disabled?

The B.C. Catholic ^ | 12/12/11 | Rhonda Wiebe

[CPO retired]

you are an excellent living witness to faith. Thanks for posting, and thanks for being.

[wagglebee]

At some point we all must ask ourselves how much moral/ethical/legal burden are we willing to place upon our wives/husbands/children in these “end of life” decisions ?

So, you consider it a "burden" to care for a sick family member?

What would your preferred solution be?

Do you support euthanasia? YES or NO

I notice you just joined FR within the last year, perhaps you weren't aware that this is a PRO-LIFE forum.

[surroundedbyblue]

“At some point we all must ask ourselves how much moral/ethical/legal burden are we willing to place upon our wives/husbands/children in these “end of life” decisions ?”

I love the arrogance of your post. You start by saying “heres another side” like none of us have experienced anything like your situation. Lol! Think again.

I dont consider caring for an ill family member a moral/ethical/legal burden, and I will raise my daughter to feel the same. You need to check yourself. Sounds like you’re advocating the pillow treatment for your MIL.

[wagglebee]

The culture of death ALWAYS starts with the premise that pro-lifers have never had to watch a loved one suffer and die.

[surroundedbyblue]

Yes, that and their “duty to die/you’re a burden” crap they spoon feed to the chronically ill. Same old story every time

Moral relativism is such a sickness in our culture. I just pray these people are enlightened & see their errors.

[metmom]

How do you comfort a wife whose mother is little more than an infant ? A mother whose greatest pride was her mind, ( and her greatest fear was its loss) ?

And I’m facing the same issues myself, it seems !

So who “determines dignity” ? For my MIL, it seems it devolves upon her daughters. I can only be supportive. In my case, I’ve already made certain determinations based upon defined presenting conditions.

And you propose what? Killing her as a solution?

At some point we all must ask ourselves how much moral/ethical/legal burden are we willing to place upon our wives/husbands/children in these “end of life” decisions?

Murdering an "inconvenient" person is moral?

It's not a moral burden to care for someone who is ill. It is a moral burden to have the murder of them on your conscience. Does that give dignity to a person, or just reduce them to a commodity that you dispose of when it's no longer useful?

[little jeremiah]

“Here is a test to find whether your mission here on earth is finished: If you’re alive, it isn’t.”

[surroundedbyblue]

Well said! Bravo!

[Darksheare]

I always say this to the pro-murder couched as death with dignity morons and they always chicken out:
Lead by example.

For some reason, they don’t want to.
They’re content to hold that idea until such time as their life is ‘inconvenient’ for someone else.
Until then, whenever someone is inconvenient to THEM, oops, oh well.
Right?
So stop couching murder in the name of personal convenience with flowery terms like “death with dignity” because there’s no such thing.

[Darksheare]

Wassa matta?
Kitty got yer tongue?

[metmom]

“Here is a test to find whether your mission here on earth is finished: If you’re alive, it isn’t.”

I LIKE that.

[trisham]

Thank you for sharing your story, Jeff. A blessed and Merry Christmas to you and your family!

[trisham]

Thank you for sharing your story, Wordkraft. Thanks to all of you.

[trisham]

How do you comfort a wife whose mother is little more than an infant ?

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When your wife was an infant, her mother cared for her. Should she do less? Our lives have a symmetry.

[little jeremiah]

I read it elsewhere just a day ago. I love it! Nice and precise.

[metmom]

The culture of death ALWAYS starts with the premise that pro-lifers have never had to watch a loved one suffer and die.

Of course, because if we had, we'd all think like them, right?

How little they know.....

[little jeremiah]

If these people get their way in this world and “get rid” of those with disabilities then all of humanity will become a race of cripples.

Well said! A disability of the body is external to our real selves, like wearing a torn shirt; crippled consciousness and conscience is infinitely worse in degree and in kind.

[PiperShade]

But infants respond to mom’s affection ! >PS

[PiperShade]

But in most cases we died long before degenerative disease presented ! Moreover, we lacked the means to prolong the lives of the afflicted for as long as is now possible.

In every instance there’s always cost/benefit ratio to be computed. Denying prolongation of respiration hasn’t a “cost” is pissing to windward with the expectation those to leeward will agree with the results ! >PS

[wagglebee]

In every instance there’s always cost/benefit ratio to be computed. Denying prolongation of respiration hasn’t a “cost” is pissing to windward with the expectation those to leeward will agree with the results !

So troll, this is now the second post on this thread where you have endorsed death panels.

You have also refused to respond to any of the replies to your earlier disgusting post.

Free Republic is a PRO-LIFE forum and you are endorsing death panels for the elderly and disabled. You are clearly in the wrong place.