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Controversial Internet Piracy Act 'SOPA' Grinds Forward As Amendments Voted Down
Talking Points Memo ^ | Carl Franzen

Posted on 12/16/2011 11:05:27 AM PST by Burkean Buckleyite

Eight hours into Thursday’s marathon hearing on the controversial “Stop Online Piracy Act” not a single amendment proposed by the bill’s critics in Congress had been passed.

In fact, at the time of this posting, all of the amendments introduced by House lawmakers designed to improve the legislation for critics have so far been voted down by a core of SOPA-supporters in the House Judiciary Committee, moving the controversial bill closer toward passage. . .

Another amendment that was voted down was proposed by Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA). It would have allowed ISPs to refuse takedown notices that would interfere with the security of the Domain Name System (DNS).

That bill was voted down despite the nearly hoarse pleas from Rep. Issa and another SOPA-opponent, Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO), the only member of the committee with any online technical experience. [emphasis added --Ed] . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Technical
KEYWORDS: corruption; internet; lamarsmith; sopa
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The failure of the amendment to protect the security of the DNS is particularly egregious -- Lamar Smith is taking the side of the cybercriminals.

Lamar Smith MUST GO!

1 posted on 12/16/2011 11:05:32 AM PST by Burkean Buckleyite
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To: Burkean Buckleyite

This bill if passed into law is the end of FreeRepublic.com .

Within weeks of implementation of the regulatory apparatus legislated in this bill, there will be hundreds of falsified complaints against each and every political website under the Jurisdiciton of the United States of America.

This bill will destroy everything that has been built here on FR and amongst various political and socio-political websites over the last 15 years.

This bill was specifically written to destroy ALL political speech on the internet.

And the Republicans are the ones railroading this through Congress.

It’s all over folks.


2 posted on 12/16/2011 11:24:50 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: Burkean Buckleyite

this bill is bad news but I think even FReepers have been downplaying it.


3 posted on 12/16/2011 11:33:36 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: JerseyHighlander
This bill if passed into law is the end of FreeRepublic.com .

True.

Within weeks of implementation of the regulatory apparatus legislated in this bill, there will be hundreds of falsified complaints against each and every political website under the Jurisdiciton of the United States of America. They don't even need to falsify the complaints -- all it takes is for somebody with a grudge or an agenda to upload infringing material (or even fair-use material which can be misrepresented as infringing), and voila! -- instant grounds to cut FR off the Net and prohibit any bank or other financial institution from processing donations to it.

4 posted on 12/16/2011 11:35:46 AM PST by Burkean Buckleyite
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This shows how moronic the GOP leadership is.

This bill, pushed at the behest of Hollywood, does nothing for the GOP. The truth is that the publishers, movie moguls, studios, etc - they’re not about to start treating Republicans better in the press or movies.

So why is the GOP carrying water for these clowns? Unexplained. Why is the GOP willing to engender the fury of the conservative base when this results in the shut-down of various conservative web sites that have enabled any measure of conservative/Republican electoral success? Because the GOP leadership is packed to the rafters with morons and retards, that’s why.


5 posted on 12/16/2011 11:46:32 AM PST by NVDave
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To: Burkean Buckleyite; JerseyHighlander

My understanding is that any advertisers for the so-called pirated website may also be held liable & sued. This SOPA is very, very bad. And yes, I do think it’ll be the death of FreeRepublic


6 posted on 12/16/2011 11:47:08 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: surroundedbyblue
this bill is bad news but I think even FReepers have been downplaying it

Compare the handful of posts on this thread to the dozens of posts on a batch of "light bulb ban" threads.

People have no sense of priorities.

7 posted on 12/16/2011 11:51:57 AM PST by Burkean Buckleyite
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To: surroundedbyblue
My understanding is that any advertisers for the so-called pirated website may also be held liable & sued.

It's much worse than that. Once a site is declared "infringing" after a hearing in which the accuser, but not the defendant, gets to present a case, businesses are summarily prohibited from transferring money to the alleged infringer, with heavy penalties for failure (even inadvertent failure resulting from lack of timely notification) to comply.

With a gun like that to their heads, advertisers and other revenue sources are simply going to abandon small sites as more risk and trouble than they're worth. Only sites that can afford their own lawyers to fight SOPA injunctions after the fact and maintain enough cash-on-hand to survive lack of income while the fight goes on will be able to survive.

8 posted on 12/16/2011 11:52:08 AM PST by Burkean Buckleyite
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To: NVDave

Well, there mu$t be $ome rea$on why $uppo$edly con$ervative politician$ will $erve Hollywood intere$ts, but I ju$t can’t $ee what it i$....


9 posted on 12/16/2011 11:54:06 AM PST by Burkean Buckleyite
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Wikipedia is considering a strike, a la "Atlas Shrugged":
SOPA is staunchly opposed by free speech and digital rights advocates, as well as top Internet portals such as Google, Facebook, Twitter and Wikipedia. In anticipation of the hearing, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales is conducting a straw poll to gauge Wikipedian interest in a community strike -- a blackout of either the U.S. Wikipedia pages, or even the entire site. So far, 87 percent of respondents are in favor of a strike....

Here's a worst-case scenario free speech supporters say is entirely possible: Proxy servers such as those that aided the Arab Spring are also used to stream content that qualifies for copyright infringement. Shut down the proxy server for a SOPA violation, and the voices of protest could be muffled as well....

IMO, the sponsors of the bill consider the muffling of protest to be a feature, not a bug.
10 posted on 12/16/2011 12:11:20 PM PST by Burkean Buckleyite
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“And the Republicans are the ones railroading this through Congress.

It’s all over folks.”

It is indeed Ironic as if the republicans are successful most of them will lose their jobs due to the fact that the vast majority of their support base will be shut down using this unconstitutional and easy to abuse legislation.

Just as similar legislation in Canada regarding hate speech was used to persecute political enemy’s by those with the pockets for lawyers.

Many Republican congressmen seem determent going to hang themselves & their supporters with SOPA.


11 posted on 12/16/2011 2:19:43 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise
...political enemy’s...

enemies

12 posted on 12/16/2011 2:33:44 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Burkean Buckleyite; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; ...

13 posted on 12/19/2011 6:49:03 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Burkean Buckleyite; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; ...

14 posted on 12/19/2011 6:49:47 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Burkean Buckleyite

Where does this bill stand in the Senate? Do they have anyone willing to filibuster it?


15 posted on 12/19/2011 6:56:52 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Monorprise
Many Republican congressmen seem determent going to hang themselves & their supporters with SOPA.

When these guys are in Washington long enough, they catch Beltway Disease and become indistinguishable from Democrats.

16 posted on 12/19/2011 7:16:40 AM PST by Burkean Buckleyite
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To: NVDave
This bill, pushed at the behest of Hollywood, does nothing for the GOP. The truth is that the publishers, movie moguls, studios, etc - they’re not about to start treating Republicans better in the press or movies.

That's what I never get. This asymmetrical warfare where everyone dumps on conservatives, yet conservatives think political reality or principle dictate that they treat these same people nice. I say bust into their house at 3:00AM and come back out with one of their kidneys. You can't win if you don't fight back.

17 posted on 12/19/2011 10:15:27 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: NVDave
Why is the GOP willing to engender the fury of the conservative base when this results in the shut-down of various conservative web sites that have enabled any measure of conservative/Republican electoral success? Because the GOP leadership is packed to the rafters with morons and retards, that’s why.

Beg to differ on that one. Establishment GOP hates grass roots conservatives, so they have as much to gain from shutting down dissent as the [other] socialists to. They think that if they can remove the communication medium, they'd be able to claim conservatism and most (the politically uninvolved) wouldn't notice they were lying. I doubt it, but maybe they're right.

18 posted on 12/19/2011 10:21:09 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking
Establishment GOP hates grass roots conservatives, so they have as much to gain from shutting down dissent as the [other] socialists to. They think that if they can remove the communication medium, they'd be able to claim conservatism and most (the politically uninvolved) wouldn't notice they were lying.

Indeed. They resent the peasants who dare to hold their feet to the fire now and then.

19 posted on 12/19/2011 1:58:07 PM PST by Burkean Buckleyite
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To: Burkean Buckleyite

bump


20 posted on 12/19/2011 3:46:16 PM PST by tutstar (Want pings to Aaron Klein articles and OWS nonsense?)
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