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ATF Loosens Restrictions on Gun Sales to Foreigners
allgov.com ^ | 26 December, 2011 | -Noel Brinkerhoff

Posted on 12/27/2011 6:38:26 AM PST by marktwain

The Obama administration has decided to eliminate a 1998 restriction on the sale of guns to foreigners, claiming federal law does not allow the government to have different gun-control rules for noncitizens.

In a letter to firearms dealers, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) said it would no longer require sellers to obtain proof from foreign buyers that they have lived in the state for 90 days. The rule was originally instituted after a disturbed Palestinian, 69-year-old Ali Abu Kamal, admitted to the United States on a legal nonimmigrant visa, bought a 380-caliber Beretta semiautomatic handgun in Florida and, on the observation deck of the Empire State Building in New York City, shot to death one person and injured six others.

“The Department of Justice … has recently concluded that, as a matter of law, applying a more stringent State residency requirement for aliens legally present in the U.S. than for U.S. citizens is incompatible with the language of the [Gun Control Act],” the ATF letter reads.

Some gun-control advocates criticized the change. Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-New Jersey) said that eliminating the regulation defied “common sense and puts Americans at risk” because it could make it easier for foreign terrorists to obtain weapons inside the country. -Noel Brinkerhoff


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; foreigners; gun; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; obama; shadowwar; threatmatrix
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I wonder what the story is on this. Is there a court case pending?
1 posted on 12/27/2011 6:38:36 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

More F&F.

This time they won’t need straw buyers, they can buy their own weapons.


2 posted on 12/27/2011 6:40:49 AM PST by Venturer
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To: marktwain
Obama is a Muslim. Obama is a Muslim. Obama is a Muslim.

IHOW: I will side with the Muslims.

3 posted on 12/27/2011 6:41:55 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: marktwain

ATF at cross purposes again...


4 posted on 12/27/2011 6:42:33 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Gimme that old time fossil fuel.)
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To: marktwain

Does anybody else here NOT believe that this man is a Muslim who is hell-bent on keeping arms from its natural born citizens and giving arms to his Muslim brothers from abroad? How much more proof could anyone need? This man has been to a Christian church, what - twice in three years while in office?...his presence is a godammed shame and a black mark on the history of this country. He is so open, so blatant about his actions, he might as well be saying the Islamic equivalent of “All your base are belong to us!”......dammit...just dammit.


5 posted on 12/27/2011 6:45:18 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: marktwain
“The Department of Justice … has recently concluded that, as a matter of law, applying a more stringent State residency requirement for aliens legally present in the U.S. than for U.S. citizens is incompatible with the language of the [Gun Control Act],” the ATF letter reads.

Umm... just throwing the word TREASON out there...

The Bill of Rights protects AMERICANS... not "non-citizens."

I'm consistently flummoxed by the asshattery going on in DC.

6 posted on 12/27/2011 6:46:19 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

If they can’t get us one way, they will get us another way. They have armed our enemies outside the country, and now they will arm them INSIDE the country. This is the most insidiously evil administration I have ever seen, bar none.

Ping


7 posted on 12/27/2011 6:47:00 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: marktwain

Fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here. Except that we invite them over by the plane loads. When their here, they will be able to get guns and wage jihad against americans. Once they do that, and americans protest, the DOJ will lock up the americans for being anti-muslim. Imprison them with no trial. Our Gov is winning the War on Americans.


8 posted on 12/27/2011 6:47:04 AM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: marktwain

MT... this is not directed at you

WTF...... I am legal..... and I get run through the mill to get a firearm... and I am a CCW holder as well....

FFS.... so , if I was not “legal” as the law used to stand... could go and buy what I liked, - no NIC check, no nothing, just wander in and buy...

Welcome to the arming of the illegals.... we are in for a hell of a fight.... This is the final solution they need to bring about “conflict and martial law”

chit and tiny little pieces of DC, they think they are safe, because they are :friends” of the revolution.....

stupid idiots, they are the first ones in the mess that the illegals shall go for....

Sorry MT, have to vent, I waited 7 years to be lawful... and the maxist/Socialist/Muslim C*ock suckers in power and employees of the GovernUS just made us all targets to “think” they have power over the sheep.

EL


9 posted on 12/27/2011 6:47:41 AM PST by Eureka_Lead (No political party has ever become a dictatorship when the citizens have firearms - Stay Vigilant)
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To: marktwain

I actually agree with them on this. It is legal for legal residents to keep and bear arms. This is a good thing for the 2nd amendment. Maybe the .gov needs to be responsible on whom it lets come here legally.


10 posted on 12/27/2011 6:48:17 AM PST by therut
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To: marktwain

Make it retroactive so “Fast and Furious” is covered.

/sarcasm


11 posted on 12/27/2011 6:50:29 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: MestaMachine

I predicted before the primaries were settled in 2008 that we would have a president who would make us all wish to have George Bush back in office but I could never have imagined that he would make us long for the days of Clinton, let alone Carter.


12 posted on 12/27/2011 6:52:39 AM PST by RipSawyer (This does not end well!)
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To: marktwain

Obama is bringing in America hating muslims by the boatload.

This enables them to legally buy guns.


13 posted on 12/27/2011 6:57:09 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Gaffer

“This man has been to a Christian church, what - twice in three years while in office?...”

I don’t think it is too hard for ObamAllah to find a Washington DC minister with Rev Wright’s take on America, so it’s not like he can’t find a preacher he can relate to. The problem is those damn inquisitive Caucasians who would see the blatant hate toward non-compliant Caucasians and Negros.

You ever wonder what ObamAllah and Michelle are teaching their kids about traditional Christianity?


14 posted on 12/27/2011 6:57:58 AM PST by BilLies (Bumper Sticker: RON PAUL WOULD BE WORSE THAN OBAMA.)
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To: therut

unless you have some reasonable idea of what the hell your talking about in favor of allowing anyone NOT legally in the country to purchase a firearm without the Legal checks... your in the the wrong channel and as such....

The GovernUS needs to be responsible for whom it lets into the country... sheesh.... get off the drugs or booze, open a window, get some fresh air mate.....

What can you bring up in the last 10 years as AFT / BATF reality actions that the conclusions protected the 2nd amendment...

You sir, are a troll, do not care what else you have written in the past, your mask is off.

And just as a closer, before you try to rip me a new one.... “it is legal for legal residents to keep and bear arms” FROG SHIT, if it was, we would not have to have licenses now would we, or be treated like criminals when dealt with when stopped or our homes visited, or...... nopes... bugger off mate...

Your a troll and exposed.

EL


15 posted on 12/27/2011 6:58:33 AM PST by Eureka_Lead (No political party has ever become a dictatorship when the citizens have firearms - Stay Vigilant)
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To: BilLies

I bet there are prayer rugs pointed towards Mecca everywhere in that peoples’ house.


16 posted on 12/27/2011 6:59:22 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: BilLies

Just because he has been inside a church does not mean he has heard a sermon or the words of Jesus Christ. For all we know, he had a potluck at the altar or watched a movie.


17 posted on 12/27/2011 7:03:46 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Gaffer
The Anti-gun lobby needs a whirlwind death count to take all guns.
The left has never cared about life if it gets in the way of their
agenda. If allowing the deaths of hundreds allows them to take our
guns they'll railroad it. I predict a more extreme approach if this doesn't
pan out the way they expect.

And BTW, does Congress have a say about this?

18 posted on 12/27/2011 7:04:20 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: Eureka_Lead; therut

She didn’t imply she agreed with guns for NOT legals....specifically, she said “legal” residents. While I still disagree with her on the finer points of that (for example, it is possible for Muslim sympathizers - legal through benefit of long residency - to obtain guns that could be used against us.

Secondly, perfunctorily asking the government to do their damned job at keeping illegals out isn’t a drunkard’s plaint. It may be pointless, but it isn’t a fool’s question.

Lastly, she isn’t a troll, I believe, but just has a different opinion.


19 posted on 12/27/2011 7:05:14 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: MaxMax

The day will come when prior to the final breakdown, this country’s laws will be ROUTINELY ignored, openly.


20 posted on 12/27/2011 7:06:41 AM PST by Gaffer
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