Posted on 01/12/2012 3:12:53 PM PST by rhema
Abortion is MURDER.
It is the cold-blooded, calculated butchery of a living human being. You need only to see some photos of aborted babies for confirmation. The waste bins in these abortion factories look like something out of your worst nightmare.
“...that matter is a legal and philosophical one,...”
So its up to the lawyers and philosophers to decide what is a human being?
Planned Parenthood: Seeing a Baby Before Abortion is Abhorrent
obviously, they have to support ignorance; they have to rely on people being ignorant in order to stay in business.
***** THE 6TH COMMANDMENT IS : “thou shalt not kill” = MURDER
KILL: (HEB - verb) -Ratsach “to kill, murder or slay... human being”
( Cain & Abel ) ( David & Uriah )
HUMANITIES OLDEST TEMPTATION —— TO BE LIKE GOD!
Lorne’s Razor: The more desperate someone is to hold onto a theory or belief, the more preposterous their explanations will become.
Let's ask the ignorant, duped, easily led so-and-sos why they don't believe in science.
And then ask them if they believe in evolution.
(And if they do, why they don't want to propagate their own genes, given that they are so obviously superior...)
Target-rich environment. Fire at will.
Cheers!
As you may know, dating from roughly the 2005-2006 time frame, and the "bug-zapper" thread, a lot of the pro-evolution people on FR (some atheists, some not; some scientists, some not) were up in arms for fear that the increasing Creationist/fundamentalist bent on FR would lead to the wholesale deliberate mischaracterization of FR and by extension, conservatives and the GOP, by liberals as "hostile to science" with consequent routings at the ballot box.
Here we have strident LIBERALS openly, explicitly rejecting science, in so many words, when it does not suit their agenda.
Do you think there will be a similar backlash (or that it is worthwhile to attempt to foment one) ?
Is it possible that this attitude of the LIBS on abortion obviates the very concerns of those who were worried about fundies, since it is clear that major segments of the left regard science as nothing more than an ideological tool at best, a hindrance at worst?
Sniff around on TOS and see if anything comes up.
Cheers!
This will eventually force Sctous to reaffirm whether it has the power to determine when life begins. Scotus has reversed course many times before.
Strictly speaking, life does not have a beginning. It is a property of the cells which are produced by the mother's and father's body. As long as those cells are maintained in favorable conditions, they will stay alive for a few hours, giving them time to encounter each other and fuse to become a new zygote, which is also alive. About half of the zygotes survive to implant and become embryos. When the property of life is lost, it does not return.
To use the presence of brain waves as a point after which abortion should not be allowed actually leaves open a window of a few weeks (4? I'm not sure) in which to abort.
““Medical science is irrelevant to the question of when a fetus becomes a human being “
Um, Shannon Dea, co-president of Planned Parenthood Waterloo Region, didn’t you know that “fetus” is Latin for “little one”? Little one, what? Little HUMAN BEING, you idiot!!
Exactly- an embryo might not have detectable brain waves, but is nonetheless a human being with unique dna.
“Abortion supporters have long seemed to believe that there exists some magical force by which an unborn baby may suddenly become a baby, and then in a single instant become an amorphous “blob of tissue” again. They grant this power in particular to the mother of an unborn child: if a mother decides that she “wants” her baby, then…poof!...she has a baby. But if she suddenly decides that she doesn’t “want” the baby…poof!...it’s a blob of tissue, or the “products of conception” again.”
Best line in the essay. You are human only if you are wanted.
my point is there needs to be SOME point used to define life and death.
if it’s never defined, it’s never settled. maybe that’s what pols want...just another thing to fight over .
It's more specific: each human being between conception and birth is only treated as a human being worthy of legal protection if wanted by the mother.
Are you aware of when you were first a unique human being with a father and a mother?
At your conception.
Not before, not after.
Abortion, to its supporters, isn’t really about the law, or philosophy or medical science. It’s about sex, and the right of men and women to ‘hook up’ freely and without consequence to them.
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