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To: Godebert

garbage and non sequiter.

there are only two types of citizen NOT three.

Those who were naturalized, and those who are born here in the US. Thre rest is just junk.


50 posted on 01/16/2012 12:42:44 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
"garbage and non sequiter."

That you would call our Founding Fathers "garbage", tells me everything I need to know about you.

I intend to continue to uphold my sworn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

Is Being a Born Citizen of the United States of Sufficient Citizenship Status to be President of the United States and Commander in Chief of Our Military? The Founders and Framers Emphatically Decided It Was Not!

56 posted on 01/16/2012 1:03:27 PM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: longtermmemmory
there are only two types of citizen NOT three.

Those who were naturalized, and those who are born here in the US. Thre rest is just junk.

You left out the category of those who are born in another country of American Parents, such as Aldo Mario Bellei of Rogers v Bellei. You also left out derived citizenship. Prior to the Cable act of 1922 and the Women's citizenship act of 1934, any woman married to an American male obtained derivative citizenship from her husband automatically.

Also, for most of our History the Children of naturalized citizens obtained derivative citizenship from their father.

You seem to be of the opinion that this is all simple and cut and dried, but if you research the issue you will discover this is not at all the case. In ex parte Reynolds the court concluded that the sole governing factor was the citizenship of the father. They specifically invoke the principle "Partus Sequitur Patrem". (The Father's country is the child's country.)

60 posted on 01/16/2012 1:13:01 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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