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1 posted on 01/17/2012 3:32:57 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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Sadly, I agree. I had hoped that Perry would eventually get some traction, as I think he would actually make the best President of the bunch. But that isn’t happening.

Santorum lacks the gravitas to be either the President or a successful candidate.

At this stage, both are only spoilers and need to make way for the only reasonably conservative candidate who can sideline Romney and go on to beat Obama - and that is Newt Gingrich.

The sooner this happens, the better.

As for Ron Paul? We know he won’t drop out, but we need to listen to his message of strong fiscal constitutionalism. He’s my choice to head the Fed during its period of transition to non-existence.

Finally, we will need to focus a lot of attention on the Congress, especially the Senate, to ensure that we have a legislative body that can keep a President Gingrich “properly aligned”, if you catch my drift.

We don’t want to create a situation where a President Gingrich feels the need to “reach across the aisle”.


44 posted on 01/17/2012 4:03:08 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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It should be clear at this point that the best candidate to go up against Mitt, and then Obama, is NEWT. I do hope Santorum supporters realize this and vote for Newt. Should Romney or Obmama win the general election, all the social policies they hold dear are down the drain.

Supporters need to contact Santorum and tell him to drop out and support Newt.

47 posted on 01/17/2012 4:05:13 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic
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Well, since Newt is not in strong second you are probably right.
Not sure why he is not but he is not.
I was hoping the Rick voters in SC would make a stategic move and vote for Gingrich even if they wouldn’t vote for him for President in order to take out Romneycrat.
Otherwise,Newt should challenge Willard to a duel.


48 posted on 01/17/2012 4:05:31 PM PST by Leep (Paul/Vantura 2016)
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Rick Santorum,warts and all,is the consistent conservative.
He has made a few votes he wishes he had back but he has not wavered in his conservative principles not once.
He does not say the socialist FDR was the greatest president of the 20th Century nor does he call himself a “Wilsonian” after the most dangerous socialist president we have ever had up til the one we have now. He doesn't claim to be a “progressive” a cute word for Leftist nor does he claim that the era of Reagan is over. In addition Rick Santorum has solid Christian Conservative bona fides that have ALWAYS been there and not “conveniently” adopted Mitt Romneylike in time for a political campaign.
Finally, a pro-life pro-heterosexual pro family pro military pro America fanatic like Santorum scares the bejeesus out of the Left and I want to see their wicked gourds explode.
I'm voting for the consistent conservative Rick Santorum on Saturday.When dealing with the evil Left I want a dog that bites instead of one that just barks even if he is a darn good barker.
50 posted on 01/17/2012 4:08:07 PM PST by Happy Rain (The more regulations the better chance of violating them and coming under the heel of the tyrant.)
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Another problem is SC is an oPen primary state... So you know Dhimicrats will be out in force for Willard.


52 posted on 01/17/2012 4:09:29 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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Sooo whats different about this then the establishment plan to disenfranchise most of the republican primary voters in the country. This may come as a surprise but there are actualy 50 states that have caucuses or primaries. Letting 2 or 3 states pick the nominee worked real good last year didn’t it..

let them fight it out


53 posted on 01/17/2012 4:14:14 PM PST by Breto (The republican establishment are morons)
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Couldn’t we just roll Romney in an alley in Charleston? /s


55 posted on 01/17/2012 4:17:36 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Romney is Obama with hair, and Paul is a jewhating loonytune. Something has to break up this fascist backwater, and pushing Gingrich, Santorum or Perry to the top may be the way to do it.


58 posted on 01/17/2012 4:21:23 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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Actually, Gingrich and Santorum have already had one debate mano-a-mano. Not very many know about it, because the media didn’t cover it. What a shocker, eh?

It happened December 10 at the Granite State Patriots Liberty PAC candidate forum in New Hampshire. Hosted by the Granite State Patriots Liberty PAC, it was a pretty good debate, and the focus was on the Constitution. Here’s the links to the videos:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Yli6Sma_ZTY

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rXHbOisNU0&list=UUtgpJXPZrDN_Y35lkP-cY3g&index=68&feature=plcp

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufq1159f5e8&list=UUtgpJXPZrDN_Y35lkP-cY3g&index=67&feature=plcp

Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7EPVYrhu2g&list=UUtgpJXPZrDN_Y35lkP-cY3g&index=66&feature=plcp

Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAdfF-75AQ8&feature=related

Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO4fn4lCP0c&list=UUtgpJXPZrDN_Y35lkP-cY3g&index=64&feature=plcp

Part 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oquMIC0kRL8&list=UUtgpJXPZrDN_Y35lkP-cY3g&index=63&feature=plcp

Part 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPsNGjtD300&feature=related


59 posted on 01/17/2012 4:21:52 PM PST by Josh Painter ("The only thing these 'investments' will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy." - Palin)
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Jim, what is missing in the above polls is the poll that really counts.

The True committed delegates selected to the 2012 GOP National Nominating Convention.

And in that field, the leading conservative to date as of Tuesday night is none-other than, Senator Rick Santorum.

In fact, what are we to say if in the next 24 hours, the results are revised and he ends up being the certified winner of the Iowa caucuses?

I think vote totals, and delegate totals, should trump all polls. The vote and delegate tolls more truly indicate what the people want, the polls often reflect what the MSM, bandwagoning some candidates and ignorning others, want the people to think. My two cents at least.

At the end of the day, I could "settle" in the General and vote for either Santorum, Gingrich or Perry. I would be a "no show" if either Romney or Paul headed the ticket. It would take 4 bottles of Jack Daniels to vote for Ron Paul and I would be delirious. And it would take 8 bottles of Jack Daniels to vote for Willard Romney, and I would be in toxic shock and comatose by then. ;-) Your mileage might vary, but I respect your post, and FR as always.

Very best respect and appreciation from Asia,

AiT -- 有り難うございました!

60 posted on 01/17/2012 4:23:04 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (The top leading CONSERVATIVE as of today in terms of 2012 GOP convention delegates, is RICK SANTORUM)
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"Gingrich should challenge Santorum to a series of Lincoln-Douglas style one-on-one debates and if there is a clear winner..."

In late November when Newt was running around blathering about how he would show up at each of Obama's campaign stops and challenge him to a L-D debate, and Newt enjoined both Cain and Huntsman in an L-D debate, Santorum also challenged Newt to a one-on-one.

Shortly thereafter, Newt's campaign went entirely silent on the matter. The Santorum campaign has not received a reply. If Newt had challenged a candidate to a debate and the other party failed to reply, every post from Newt fans on the matter would include the word, "chicken" or "coward."

62 posted on 01/17/2012 4:24:03 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem. meum)
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Not going to happen... Nobody will get out before S.C. is done and over with. Ego and personal ambition will prevent it.


70 posted on 01/17/2012 4:35:13 PM PST by TBBT
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Correct me if I am wrong, but NONE of these RCP polls are from AFTER Newt's triple Grand Slam last night and Romney getting picked off trying to steal a base.
71 posted on 01/17/2012 4:35:41 PM PST by cookcounty (Newt 2012: ---> Because he got it DONE.)
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It’s January.

If Perry drops out, there goes the competition and the primary elections become moot.

Not only that, but both Santorum and Gingrich are tainted.

Santorum has the specter of Specter and his loss in Pennsylvania. Gingrich has 3 wives (imagine him defending the Defense of Marriage Act?), muddled his response just last month as to when life begins, and those balanced budgets depended on cu . Neither know what they’re talking about when they talk about creating jobs or gun rights and both have a long record of “crossing the aisle” and forgetting to come back.

Part of the reason that Romney is always in front is the script that he’s the front-runner. And part of the reason that Perry is trailing is the repetitive script that he can’t win because of mistakes in his first couple of debates.

I’m still convinced that Governor Perry is the right man for the job. He’s had one wife, has executive experience, and has always been pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-state’s rights, pro-business. He’s not just saying these things because he should: he understands what he says when he talks about all of the above.

He’s the only one of the 5 remaining candidates other than Paul who still has a job and the only one who hasn’t been running for President for over a year.

I’d think more people would have noticed how fast he learned debating, and how much he improved. But no: the consensus is he goofed up in September, so it’s all over.


77 posted on 01/17/2012 4:41:53 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed & I'm not afraid to use it. 2 men inherited a Bush economy.)
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Delete my account. You sir are an utter fool. You can vote for whomever you want, but you don’t dictate who I will vote for or support. It’s too bad the Palinistas blamed Perry for Palin not running. Maybe if you all would have been slightly rational you would have realized that Perry had the best record and was closest in ideology as Palin. Perry isn’t perfect but he has experience, proven leadership and bonafides as an uncompromising fiscal and social conservative.

Have fun backing a loser. Newt will not be able to defeat the dems. They blame him for impeachment while getting blow jobs at the same time with that two bit whore of a tramp he is now married to.

Not only that, Newt’s as big a progressive as Romney and 0bama!


81 posted on 01/17/2012 4:45:07 PM PST by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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Would love to see it happen, but it's a pipe dream. Too many egos at stake. Not to fear though, God is still on the throne and there won't be any upcoming primaries for his seat!
82 posted on 01/17/2012 4:45:19 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (No Jesus, No Peace! Know Jesus, Know Peace!)
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I am sold on Senator Santorum....!

He must be over the target because he's sure taking flak right and left....

..and most of you here are determined to neutralize him.

This silliness about his wife is the imaginings of lowdown, scummy, vile sewer rats! .

It may be coming from Britain but it has Soros fingerprints all over it.

I am angered beyond words.

86 posted on 01/17/2012 4:50:17 PM PST by Guenevere (....We press on.....)
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Right as rain.

Newt/Santorum would be the ticket to beat. Perry needs to do what’s right. He’s an admirable man and I have faith he’ll do what a good soldier should.


87 posted on 01/17/2012 4:52:18 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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Like it or not, the trend has been clear for weeks. If we wish a conservative to be our nominee, Perry should drop out of the race and we should coalesce around Gingrich or Santorum. As long as all three or even two of the three remain in the race the conservative vote will be split and RINO Romney will get the nomination. Gingrich should challenge Santorum to a series of Lincoln-Douglas style one-on-one debates and if there is a clear winner, then the loser should drop out, or in the very least, we may be able to better decide which one is better suited to take on Romney and Obama. May our very best conservative take on and defeat Romney/Paul and then wipe out Obama!!

Agree 100%. Perry should drop out tomorrow. I had hoped that he would have skipped NH and worked on his debate coaching. He didn't. He's just not prepared to run and has no intention of becoming so.
89 posted on 01/17/2012 4:52:37 PM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: antonius; narses; Salvation; cripplecreek; Darren McCarty; Impy; randita

Rick Santorum is the best choice. In some ways, he reminds me of Jimmy Stewart in “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.”


91 posted on 01/17/2012 4:53:21 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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